Greatest Hits Tour + New Book - End of this year

[The Gutless Wonder]

A proper tour of Postcards would be good!

[Takk]

Originally Posted by Abstract Unknown Girl

I think James answered your posts without the need for me to wade in and fight his corner.

...and yet you did?

Well it is kind of hypocritical to say it's ok for you to criticise setlists because 'it's your choice' to go to the gigs, when you just basically used the same argument against James to suggest he doesn't have to go to the gigs because he doesn't like certain aspects of the tour. It is as you say, a discussion forum, so palming people off with 'well you don't have to go you know' just because they're questioning things the Manics have done (not necessarily setlists either) seems a bit contradictory.

Not really, I comment about setlists knowing full well the band aren't going to change or listen to me. If I was really bothered about them, I could not go to the gigs. Also, there's a bit of a difference with wanting things on the tour or songs changed and wishing they weren't touring.

We don't all have to love everything they do. I'm bored of certain songs, but I still go because I enjoy the gigs overall and I don't think any of us need to be told we don't have to go as soon as we say we don't like something.

He didn't say he didn't like something, he said he wished they weren't playing more gigs. The obvious and really the only answer to which is don't go. I think his comment was pretty likely to get the response I gave if not something rather less polite from someone in a country where they never go.

[The Gutless Wonder]

I'm already planning for the next gig so they can't not play any more!

[hummingbird]

i just don't want them to tour in december so that i don't have to worry about snow and flu

[Mr.Selfdestruct]

Originally Posted by The Gutless Wonder

We all have a blimmin' good time whether we like all their songs or just a few! Rock on!

That's the royal we, right?
Not that i can say anything, because i have permanently banned myself from moaning about the set.

I must admit that i was a little bored during the last few songs in Dublin, and headed off to the bar. But four times in 8 months was too much for me, so it's my own fault really.
December is a long way off, so will have to see how i feel at the time.

[everlasting]

If they tour in December I'll be happy, cos I'll be back from my travells and it'll make a nice Christmas present a family member can buy me. I don't get to see them multiple times every year, so I'll be happy to see them again for sure!

[The Gutless Wonder]

Originally Posted by Mr.Selfdestruct

That's the royal we, right?

I want Postcards to get the proper airing it deserves. Hopefully more album tracks will appear at the festivals they are performing at!

[MSPKYE]

Originally Posted by Takk

...and yet you did?

She's free to comment where and to whoever and to whatever she wants is she not? The fact we're a couple is completely irrelevant

Not really, I comment about setlists knowing full well the band aren't going to change or listen to me. If I was really bothered about them, I could not go to the gigs. Also, there's a bit of a difference with wanting things on the tour or songs changed and wishing they weren't touring.

My point was more touring under the banner of a Greatest Hits tour rather than touring at all. By all means do a few gigs at christmas as a one off but don't make out like theyre going to be any different to any gig they've done in the last 12 years let alone 12 months, especially in terms of set. And well they have over saturated themselves this last year, 44 odd headline gigs in support of PFAYM and there's not much to distinguish between much of them.

He didn't say he didn't like something, he said he wished they weren't playing more gigs. The obvious and really the only answer to which is don't go. I think his comment was pretty likely to get the response I gave if not something rather less polite from someone in a country where they never go.

Which REALLY doesnt need pointing out at all and well I'll go if I want, I'll also not go if I don't feel like it that's of no concern to anyone but myself. Just cause I feel disenchanted with them doesn't mean I don't still enjoy the gigs when I see them. And well if there's other country's begging to be played in they should go play there!

[The Gutless Wonder]

The South American fans are ever hopeful!

[Abstract Unknown Girl]

Originally Posted by Takk

...and yet you did?

I commented on something you said that I didn't agree with; this is a discussion forum by your own admission. I would have said the same regardless of who you said it to, so I don't know why you seem to think there's a hidden agenda, other than I merely disagree with your points.

Not really, I comment about setlists knowing full well the band aren't going to change or listen to me. If I was really bothered about them, I could not go to the gigs. Also, there's a bit of a difference with wanting things on the tour or songs changed and wishing they weren't touring.

And do you really think anyone else expects the band to listen to their demands? It doesn't mean we're not allowed to comment.

He didn't say he didn't like something, he said he wished they weren't playing more gigs. The obvious and really the only answer to which is don't go.

Questioning why a band may be embarking on yet another tour doesn't really need to be met with the response of 'don't go' though. I think it's reasonable enough to wonder about it whilst at the same time still wanting to go. I don't really see why you need to take it upon yourself to decide what someone else should or shouldn't do.

I think his comment was pretty likely to get the response I gave if not something rather less polite from someone in a country where they never go.

I'm sure those in other countries who don't get the privilege of regular tours would also say the same thing in response to those who moan about setlists.

[sculptureofabloke]

Oh dear, I dread to see the arguments if this tour actually happens.

[MSPKYE]

Originally Posted by adore failure

The show I saw on that tour was amazing. It did not fall on its own arse.

Anyone who went to the Manchester G-MEX (or Central or whatever its called) could testify as to the mass of arse that came flying towards the floor....though mass would be the wrong word at that gig seeing as it was barely even a quarter full, same with the Brum NIA gig

[The Gutless Wonder]

I'll be too busy bouncing about to care!

[The Gutless Wonder]

Brum 2007 was a good gig if that's the one you're referring to. I thoroughly enjoyed it!

[Takk]

Originally Posted by Abstract Unknown Girl

I commented on something you said that I didn't agree with; this is a discussion forum by your own admission. I would have said the same regardless of who you said it to, so I don't know why you seem to think there's a hidden agenda, other than I merely disagree with your points.

I didn't say you couldn't, just an observation.

And do you really think anyone else expects the band to listen to their demands? It doesn't mean we're not allowed to comment.

Please point out where I said you weren't allowed to comment.

Questioning why a band may be embarking on yet another tour doesn't really need to be met with the response of 'don't go' though. I think it's reasonable enough to wonder about it whilst at the same time still wanting to go.

It wasn't wondering about it, it was saying 'no more gigs'...and to which the obvious response, unlike 'I wish they'd play xxxx' is to just not bother going. There's a difference between loving their gigs but wishing they'd play something you'd want to see and wishing for no gigs.

I don't really see why you need to take it upon yourself to decide what someone else should or shouldn't do.

I didn't decide what someone else should or shouldn't do.

I'm sure those in other countries who don't get the privilege of regular tours would also say the same thing in response to those who moan about setlists.

Quite probably, they do.