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Littlesue · #16 15-07-2014, 06:13

The Holy Bible was my Number 1 until Lifeblood then that over took it.

nocultureicons · #17 15-07-2014, 06:21

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Originally Posted by hummingbird

would it have gone straight in at 2 had it been released in April /May as originally planned?

I don't think it would, they had a very fortunate week with little to no noteworthy new releases.

It'll be interesting to see how many copies this week's number 2 sells.

Takk · #18 15-07-2014, 06:57

Could probably look up the number of sales for those weeks?

cdrw1992 · #19 15-07-2014, 09:22

I think the site ukmix.org will have all the chart sales (will have a look around), but this wiki page gives the sales for each No.1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_in...ber-one_albums

Had they released Futurology at the start of April they'd have probably been fighting it out with Kaiser Chiefs for top spot - 23,767 and 16,086 for their two weeks.

I guess it all depends on who releases an album or has just released an album. Some weeks you could get top spot with 20,000 sales, others you'd need 120,000. Suppose that's why so many people say chart placings are irrelevant.

allisvanity · #20 15-07-2014, 09:31

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Originally Posted by nocultureicons

It'll be interesting to see how many copies this week's number 2 sells.

Apparently Morrissey's new one is out this week, so will be interesting to see how he does. He's in a similar situation to The Manics I suppose, established artist, doesn't get much radio play any more but has a hardcore fanbase...

almostfamous · #21 15-07-2014, 17:45

Tuesday update Mozzer is No2 on 9k sales behind Sh##ran's 11k. Less than Futurology at the same point last week.

No sign of MSP in the new top 5.

Bathtub · #22 15-07-2014, 22:59

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Originally Posted by Marat Sar

It's not only the critics who are easily swayed by legends of destroyed youth and the imposing stature of an aesthetic milestone. After all, the band themselves perpetuate the view of THB as monolith too - although if you listen carefully, they always stress the aesthetics of the period, never sheer musical quality.

I won't bother with a poll, but I guess about half here would agree THB is not their best - yet again, they would disagree on what is, still making The Bible top dog in a straight poll.

I also see you used the word "conspiracy" there. Indeed, I think this is how critical consensus is formed, yes. Akin to a self-forming conspiracy, where some kind of common denominator pulls the strings. That denominator, however, can change over time. People who have formed an opinion on the band thus far have shared an underlying emotional need for the kind of thing THB represents to be associated with their character. But over time, as we all get older and the world changes around us, that common denominator is bound to change. I hope it is changing, truly, because nowadays we have fuck all to do with the kind of attitude THB represents, yet incredibly cool shit could be built to the tune of Dreaming A City.

I think your views on the band and the way people respond to their music are really interesting and I really enjoyed reading them, but we'll have to agree to disagree! The Holy Bible is such an important record to me that I don't believe they or any band could make a record of that quality again.

grimlock · #23 16-07-2014, 22:38

The journalists over in the US don't acknowledge the Manics at all (aside from like, Pitchfork) so the Holy Bible is a good example of a little-known treasure at least over here.

revcheese · #24 17-07-2014, 01:10

By the looks of it, Pitchfork have seemingly forgotten about them too. Neither RTF or Futurology got a review from them.

Takk · #25 17-07-2014, 05:26

So they would have been no 1 this week?

nocultureicons · #26 17-07-2014, 06:57

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Originally Posted by revcheese

By the looks of it, Pitchfork have seemingly forgotten about them too. Neither RTF or Futurology got a review from them.

If they don't receive a review copy they generally won't review it and I imagine that's what happened.

nocultureicons · #27 17-07-2014, 06:59

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Originally Posted by Takk

So they would have been no 1 this week?

If it had been released this week they would've been fighting Morrissey for column inches and I suspect they would've lost. That would have undoubtedly had an affect on sales.

allisvanity · #28 17-07-2014, 08:09

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Originally Posted by Takk

So they would have been no 1 this week?

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Originally Posted by nocultureicons

If it had been released this week they would've been fighting Morrissey for column inches and I suspect they would've lost. That would have undoubtedly had an affect on sales.

Also, I suspect they both might have still lost out to Sheeran.