Civic Hall, Wolverhampton 1st June 2009 with setlist

[MrsCarbohydrate]

Originally Posted by still_unfashionable

You know, not everyone´s able to turn up in the early hours and queue all day. People have work to go to, I hope this didn´t come as a surprise to you? Honestly, if I was in the band, I´d get totally bored of the same people on the barrier every fucking night.

• We all have jobs.
• Not being able to get there early doesn't give you a reason to assault people that did.
• The band seemed not mind our presence. Quite the opposite I'd say.

[BranCox]

Originally Posted by harrijack

Aw, thanks. Seriously, wet-wipes, water, a stolen travelodge pillow and concealer were my weapons of survival for the whole tour. I probably saw you, what dates did you do apart from Wales?

I was at London on Friday and Wolves. I saw you, as I overheard you talking to some other FDers but I didn't say hi, as you are an impossibly glam young pup, and I am a shrivelled old scruff.

Originally Posted by Lindz Delirium

secretly concealed hairbrushes, hairspray, deodorant and a full kit of make-up smuggled past security. Re-application of said makeup at various intervals (after support, during Manics interval)

You all look like filmstars. You make me sick!

[curlyboa]

Originally Posted by still_unfashionable

You know, not everyone´s able to turn up in the early hours and queue all day. People have work to go to, I hope this didn´t come as a surprise to you? Honestly, if I was in the band, I´d get totally bored of the same people on the barrier every fucking night.

Sounds like sour grapes to me mate!

[WelshManicFoo]

Originally Posted by The Gutless Wonder

Yay! We didn't have any problems from anyone did we Helen? No over zealous fanboys trying to push past! I'm with Hannah, people should have the courtesy to ask - not just try and bully or threaten their way to the front. Sorry you had to put up with that girls! I think I spotted you all pointing!

We were lucky Tracey to have a good spot in front of James,and extra lucky to have a few small people on the barrier which meant we could see with no probs.But I hate all the pushing and shoving at gigs.There's no need for it.I've been elbowed in the face a few times by people way taller and bigger then me.It bloody hurts,there's no harm in asking politely if they can pass you.

There's a great download of the gig over at S&V too![/QUOTE]

Please could someone tell me what S&V is, Monday night was THE best manics gig ive been to and would love to have this as a memento of it.

[Scarecrow]

A part of this site where you can download bootlegs and such, but you need to have 100+ posts to gain access.

[still_unfashionable]

Originally Posted by harrijack

Haha what? Are you serious? So the fact you had to be at work during the day gives you the right to pull the hair, punch, kick and scream "Fucking cunts! Fucking whores!" at the three girls in front of you who have queued for hours and are a lot smaller than you? That's your theory? I don't mind people who tap you on the shoulder and ask if there's any room, but this guy was utter scum and got very violent about it. The people at the front also all have jobs; we just use this wonderful newfangled thing called annual leave and holiday.

Just to add, James and Nicky didn't seem to mind us being at the front at all. Quite the contrary, James was brilliant to us every night and Nicky was all smiles.

Did I ever say it gave him an excuse to hurl abuse at you?
Not everyone can get time off work to do a tour, neither would everyone want to spend their annual leave sitting on pavements all day...ooh but means you´re not dedicated enough, sorry!

[Mary Chain]

Originally Posted by still_unfashionable

Did I ever say it gave him an excuse to hurl abuse at you?
Not everyone can get time off work to do a tour, neither would everyone want to spend their annual leave sitting on pavements all day...ooh but means you´re not dedicated enough, sorry!

Are you him?

It's not a question of dedication, it's a question of common decency. If he had physically assaulted a girl in the street the same way he did us he could have been arrested. Just exactly how is that excusable behaviour in any case? If you can't get there early just accept second row and deal with it. In fact, I'll just quote MrsCarbohydrate's earlier reply to your comment. It's very concise.

Originally Posted by MrsCarbohydrate

• We all have jobs.
• Not being able to get there early doesn't give you a reason to assault people that did.
• The band seemed not mind our presence. Quite the opposite I'd say.

[A boy called Rita]

Originally Posted by still_unfashionable

neither would everyone want to spend their annual leave sitting on pavements all day...

Why not? It's more fun than the gig sometimes

[Loz]

Originally Posted by still_unfashionable

Did I ever say it gave him an excuse to hurl abuse at you?
Not everyone can get time off work to do a tour, neither would everyone want to spend their annual leave sitting on pavements all day...ooh but means you´re not dedicated enough, sorry!

It's not really a question of dedication for some.
I'm 5ft3 so basically if I'm not on the barrier, I can't even see the band unless I go and stand near the back.
I expect pushing and a fair few bruises but what I experienced at Wolverhampton was way beyond that, and unfortunately it ruined the gig for me.

[mafiamonroe]

Originally Posted by Lindz Delirium

secretly concealed hairbrushes, hairspray, deodorant and a full kit of make-up smuggled past security. Re-application of said makeup at various intervals (after support, during Manics interval)

And we know where you conceal your hairbrush don't we? It must be like having a dead hedgehog inside you Lindz?!

[Valley_Girl]

Originally Posted by The Gutless Wonder

Anyway, had some compensation as I met an FD'er WelshManicFoo which was great and we chatted with a German woman whose been a fan for years and she was showing us her Roundhouse pics so that was lovely!

Originally Posted by WelshManicFoo

I must of been feeling a bit brave on monday night.But I thought I'd chat to people around me while we were waiting for the band to come out.Glad I did now because everybody was nice and friendly.Made the time go a bit quicker which is always good.

It was lovely of you to talk to us, I had a wonderful time, and waiting for the gig to start wasn't boring this way.
I'm home again (wishing I were in Ireland right now), but the great memories of the gigs, you and the other lovely fans will stay with me for a long time.

[mafiamonroe]

Originally Posted by Intravenous_Agnostic

It's not really a question of dedication for some.
I'm 5ft3 so basically if I'm not on the barrier, I can't even see the band unless I go and stand near the back.
I expect pushing and a fair few bruises but what I experienced at Wolverhampton was way beyond that, and unfortunately it ruined the gig for me.

Sorry to hear that Lauren. Try and imagine that you had been in a rugby scrum with your fave rugby players naked!

[still_unfashionable]

Originally Posted by harrijack

Are you him?

It's not a question of dedication, it's a question of common decency. If he had physically assaulted a girl in the street the same way he did us he could have been arrested. Just exactly how is that excusable behaviour in any case? If you can't get there early just accept second row and deal with it. In fact, I'll just quote MrsCarbohydrate's earlier reply to your comment. It's very concise.

Nope, I´m not him. I never said he was right to assault you, did I? Personally, I´m happy to be in the 3rd row or whatever, but I can understand where he was coming from as the same people seem to invade the barrier every night.

[The Gutless Wonder]

Originally Posted by Valley_Girl

It was lovely of you to talk to us, I had a wonderful time, and waiting for the gig to start wasn't boring this way.
I'm home again (wishing I were in Ireland right now), but the great memories of the gigs, you and the other lovely fans will stay with me for a long time.

Are you the German lady that me and Helen spoke to? (Sorry, didn't get a name!) Also sorry if you're the wrong person as I don't think she had joined the forum but was considering it. Nice to chat to different fans anyway!