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22-07-2022, 17:25
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I can see why Rosebud was left out in the cutting floor, it has too many similarities to the truth album and they were trying to get away from that sound. Even if it was one of probably their stronger songs. The intro is pure Frusciante inspired like from Soul to Squeeze. The keys in the chorus are magnificent and I can see why something like studio cut of why so sad works in the normal KYE, it has that wtf? factor with the solo with the theremin-esque solo.
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22-07-2022, 18:15
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22-07-2022, 18:35
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Ordered full tat version. Wish there was a no t-shirt option tho
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22-07-2022, 18:55
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22-07-2022, 19:29
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2CD. Signed that's dried. And Solidarity T-Shirt too irresistible.
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22-07-2022, 19:36
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The start of Rosebud has a bit of a Manorbier vibe to it. The chorus and solo are addictive. It’s nice to have a song to enjoy.
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22-07-2022, 20:06
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22-07-2022, 21:34
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It has hints of quite a few songs, but someone earlier mentioned Black Garden and I totally heard that on first listen.
Just watched the official video... yet another one done in recent years I won't ever watch again. So boring and dull. Maybe it's personal footage of theirs, but it's been done before. Didn't even bother to make it a 'lyrics video' this time. Get a new director in for the future, forget Kieran Evans now, I bet most college or university media students could come up with something great and they'd do it for free as part of their studies!
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22-07-2022, 22:12
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To be fair to Kieren, I doubt the budget for a video for a rejected b-side appearing on a re-release, is much northward of £500. It was probably a favour more than anything else not a great video but when he's given a decent budget the videos tend to more worthwhile.
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22-07-2022, 22:36
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After a few listens there is a repetitiveness to rosebud but it's still a belter and i too miss james sounding like that, he sounds amazing on this. There is something in the vocals that reminds me a little of some tracks off this is my truth but it's got the kye stamp and i'm amazed they didn't at least use it as a b-side. And yeah... great to hear some new/old stuff!
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22-07-2022, 22:50
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I've made Rosebud my obsession on Last FM!
 Great to have a completely new song to listen to!
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22-07-2022, 23:03
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I've used =Glyn; post for the glorious lists again. As you can't quote a quote.
But who's up for Tracklist discussion? To while away hours until in hands? I genuinely expected Pedestal to have made it to either album's tracklisting. Even thought Locus Valley was staring in the face for Solidarity opener, imo. Plus you don't have to quote this. Have a great weekend. Enjoy the pre-holiday. I regret nothing and it'll be September before we can say "YouTube should have been on DVD!". Disc 1 – Door To The River The Year of Purification Ocean Spray So Why So Sad (Avalanches Sean Penn Mix) Door To The River Rosebud Just a Kid His Last Painting Let Robeson Sing Groundhog Days Epicentre His Last Painting (LA Mix) Epicentre (TLA Mix) So Why So Sad (Original KYE Version) Royal Correspondent Disc 2 – Solidarity Intravenous Agnostic Found That Soul (TLA Mix) We Are All Bourgeois Now Freedom of Speech Won’t Feed My Children The Convalescent Baby Elian Masses Against The Classes My Guernica Studies In Paralysis Dead Martyrs Wattsville Blues Miss Europa Disco Dancer Fear Of Motion Pedestal Didn’t My Lord Deliver Daniel Locust Valley Masking Tape Ballad of the Bangkok Novotel Disc 3 – Demos Ocean Spray (Studio Demo) So Why So Sad (Cassette Demo) Door To The River (Cassette Demo) His Last Painting (Air Version Home Cassette Demo) Let Robeson Sing (Home Cassette Demo) Groundhog Days (Home Cassette Demo) Epicentre (Cassette Demo) Intravenous Agnostic (Home Cassette Demo) Freedom Of Speech Won’t Feed My Children (Studio Demo) The Convalescent (Studio Rehearsal Demo) His Last Painting Baby Elian (Studio Demo) Masses Against The Classes (Studio Demo) My Guernica No 1 (Home Acoustic Demo) My Guernica (Studio Demo) Dead Martyrs (Home Cassette Demo) Wattsville Blues (Home Cassette Demo)
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22-07-2022, 23:09
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If I had to reduce KYE to a single album with between 10/12 tracks it would look something like this:
Found That Soul So Why So Sad Ocean Spray Door To The River Let Robeson Sing Rosebud Intravenous Agnostic Masking Tape The Convalescent Midnight Sun Miss Europa Disco Dancer (Hidden track - Locust Valley) This could change after I get to hear Studies in Paralysis but I'm very happy with the above. That's probably a top 3 Manics album right there, for me at least.
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23-07-2022, 01:20
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Door To The River and Masses Against The Classes need to be addressed don’t they.
Masses is clearly KYE era (but I get that it could just about sneak in as a TIMT song) but it needs to be at the start or at the end of the album. It’s utterly wasted in the middle. Door To The River is one of the most beautiful songs they’ve ever done. Always has been. But it’s the polar opposite of KYE. I dunno where it stands - maybe that’s why it’s so unique - but I don’t think it’s an album song and it’s definitely not a KYE song. That period from 2002-2005 was incredible too. PPF, Lifeblood, Door To The River, Firefight… there must be some more gems tucked away in the vaults from that period.
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