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24-04-2011, 17:09
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I always hoped they'd do something like the Clash "Story of the Clash", two CDs all the singles, no missing out non-hits, all their babies equally loved under one roof.
I want stuff like "Repeat" and "Love's Sweet Exile" remastered and reborn rather than the weedy 'Is it on yet?' twenty-year old CD version I currently own. 
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24-04-2011, 17:42
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24-04-2011, 17:56
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I really really don't want to start an argument, but here's my take on all this. Let me also preface by saying I'm a relatively new Manics fan, who only started to really get into the band in the past six months or so. I've also never seen them live, as I live in North America and like I said, I'm a relatively new fan. So my perspective is a little skewed.
I really don't get why it's a bad thing if they're releasing a greatest hits compilation, and doing a subsequent tour. -If I remember correctly, someone here asked Sean himself about this after the Hard Rock gig and he said their label wanted to put out another greatest hits, so we really can't point the finger at the band. -With regards to how their setlists never really change? Like I said in a previous comment, when you have a band that’s been around for awhile and has an extensive back catalog, of COURSE they’re going to play their biggest hits from their career! Looking at what they did on their last tour, it looks like that’s what they did, and they threw in some of the better songs from PFAYM. Isn’t that usually the method most groups do anyway? Every concert I've been to, the setlist was always "biggest hits + stuff from the new album being promoted." Only exception was The Who and Ray Davies, as they both didn't have any new material they were promoting at the time. So those truly were greatest hits tours heh. But they still sounded brilliant and that's what matters! -They know what people want to hear, so that’s why they do Motorcycle Emptiness and A Design for Life and You Love Us. They’ve mixed things up a little bit, because I remember people here being surprised they were doing some songs they hadn’t performed for years. For all we know, they might surprise everyone with these upcoming shows. Didn't they switch out one or two songs in the middle of this last tour? Honestly, they’re not gonna pull out Drug Drug Druggy and I’m Not Working and do an encore with Failure Bound (though that WOULD be quite entertaining heh). Personally, I would LOVE to hear Archives of Pain live, but Faster sounds just as good! -And yes, PFAYM was just an ok album at best. Every band’s catalog isn’t flawless; I’ll be the first to point out some true crap my favorite artists have released over the years. That doesn’t mean they should give up! I'm looking forward to see what they try to do with this next one, and whether Nicky really will come up with 70 songs heh. Anyway, sorry for the novel. I'm just trying to look at this from another angle  *heads back to pseudo-lurking*
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24-04-2011, 18:06
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24-04-2011, 18:08
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 ) and a lot of us are ungrateful and demanding little shits. Anyway, I was gonna reply to your newest post but there's nothing to add to it really, I agree with everything you said and I hope they do head across the pond again soon.
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24-04-2011, 18:48
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24-04-2011, 18:56
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I really don't mind another greatest hits as an idea - I've got absolutely nothing against compilations, in fact I kinda like them and view them as a part of an artist's life. I've gotten into loads of artists through some really well-made compilations.
The only thing I'm a bit iffy here is that it comes only three albums after the previous one, and I kinda have a feeling it's going to be a hit-oriented thing with a very limited tracklist. A full singles collection would be quite dandy, or even like the recent 2-disc comps that have been coming out which contain a CD of hits and CD of album trackers, lesser-known singles and etc. Preferably with song commentary by the band in the booklet but that might just be going a bit too daydreamy, seeing as what the booklets for FD and Lipstick Traces were... But I'll be happy as long as they choose not to completely ignore any of their albums and represent each one with at least something. Like I mentioned before, the main thing I'm personally interested about is the likely obligatory new song(s). The ones they pulled out for FD are some of their best songs and while I'm fairly sure we won't be getting anything as fantastic, seeing as how different the band is these days, it's still some new Manics stuff to look forward to. But yeah, I'm not bothered about this news at all.
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24-04-2011, 18:58
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Maybe not ungrateful and demanding but moaning certainly!
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24-04-2011, 21:32
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They have after all been playing effectively a greatest hits set for a long time, and clearly it doesn't sit well with a fair proportion of the fans. As to some people not moaning, well some people wouldn't moan whatever they did. Blind worship is no more healthy for band then over critical fans! The band's always had a love hate relationship with their fans, I don't see why this is any worse. If you are paying 40 quid for a ticket, I don't think it's ungrateful to be disappointed if the band pull off a rubbish or repetitive setlist the time you go see them. Whether you have a right to any more is a different matter, but I think you have as much right to complain as you want. The band may not owe the fans anything, but on that basis the fans don't owe the band anything either - two parties engaging in a transaction for a service....
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24-04-2011, 23:14
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I like pretty much everything they've done (love a lot, think some are ok, don't really dislike more than a handful) and I've enjoyed all but a couple of the gigs I've been to. The only ones I didn't enjoy so much were because I had a crap view and I was surrounded by people talking throughout. Why does "blind worship" have to come into it? I don't know if that's aimed at me, but I don't care who it's aimed at really. I think it's pretty arrogant to devalue someone's personal taste like that.
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24-04-2011, 23:54
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I see what you mean...I don't know, first Manics songs I was introduced to were Motorcycle Emptiness, If You Tolerate This, and Your Love Alone. I know it's not worth it at this point in their career to try 'breaking' America, because they've seen it hasn't worked. But if they're promoting it, you'd think they'd visit here anyway, doing their most well-known music for an audience who might not know everything but is familiar with their most popular songs...ok, now I lost my point heh. Does that make sense, somewhat?
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