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Old 17-09-2013, 21:16
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Not at all, they're shit but they're eminently ignorable.
no i've tried. Really I have.
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Old 17-09-2013, 21:28
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Must remember to get new album
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Old 17-09-2013, 21:30
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Can we all just take a minute to appreciate the music of SYMM? The weird, frosty-morning sweeps of the verse, the chasms which open up in the bridge, the reverse drums of the fill into the chorus, and that glorious laconic solo, stretching out into the morning air and soaring away on the last wave of late brit-pop elegance.
I completely agree. What I don't agree with, and never will, is that the lyrics are shit. It's a song about being so angry about something that you're lost for words and it executes that idea perfectly. I love SYMM.
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Old 17-09-2013, 21:55
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I completely agree. What I don't agree with, and never will, is that the lyrics are shit. It's a song about being so angry about something that you're lost for words and it executes that idea perfectly. I love SYMM.
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Old 17-09-2013, 22:02
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My now-almost-obligatory SYMM response post…

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Nicky Wire has nothing to say all of a sudden? NICKY WIRE? Really?! Isn't this the same Nicky Wire with the reputation for shooting his mouth off at any available opportunity about any subject under the sun?!


this is exactly my problem with it. It bothered me a lot more in 98 after all the hype over it. Huge letdown. HUGE.
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Old 18-09-2013, 05:58
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Listened to SATT for the first time in maybe 3 years today, for all the pomp and bluster it's still just such a thoroughly enjoyable record. Really really enjoyed hearing those songs again, even Underdogs.

The slow creep back to fandom continues apace...
First SATT, then Postcards!
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Old 18-09-2013, 06:00
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I completely agree. What I don't agree with, and never will, is that the lyrics are shit. It's a song about being so angry about something that you're lost for words and it executes that idea perfectly. I love SYMM.
Love SYMM too and have never had a problem with the lyrics!
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Old 18-09-2013, 06:04
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Must remember to get new album
Now come on Raven! You don't want to be like me and still albumless by the end of the week! (Hoping Amazon can get it out to me sooner!)

Being naughty and not using multi-quote again, soz!
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Old 18-09-2013, 08:30
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Does anyone know if the manics will be on Later with Jools Holland soon? Just realised there was a new series.
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Old 18-09-2013, 09:02
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I certainly hope so, I thought I'd remembered them play every album on there since EMG but I've just checked and neither KYE or SATT made it onto the show, so we'll have to see.

Just managed to get the listing for next week, "Pixies, Janelle Monae, Tony Joe White, Chvrches, Barrence Whitfield, Savages". Sounds like a good one but no Manics...
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Show Me The Wonder and Rewind The Film are both firmly stuck in my brain. Now for the rest of the album! Hurry up Amazon!
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Old 18-09-2013, 15:55
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Wayne's vocals have been turned up this tour. Take that as you will.
I maintain the best Manics live sound was the circa EMG-KYE one, with one guitar (on wireless, making it sound extra crispy), one vocal and a bit of wobbly keyboard in the background to fill in the gaps.

The new 'full band' sounds too relaxed to me, I like the sound of a struggle to fill the gaps.
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Old 18-09-2013, 17:32
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Now come on Raven! You don't want to be like me and still albumless by the end of the week! (Hoping Amazon can get it out to me sooner!)
We're going to be the second week sales boost .... stop them disappearing out the chart after one week.....which seems to be the way these days, less Nicky's got a place booked on X Factor (with the rest of the band too, yes.....yes doing a Manic song....not a cover of Shirley Bassey and a dog dancing along....looking for a new direction)

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I completely agree. What I don't agree with, and never will, is that the lyrics are shit. It's a song about being so angry about something that you're lost for words and it executes that idea perfectly. I love SYMM.
It sounds like they're unsure, they have the accusation of mass murder and verses that seem in contrast directionless and unsure.....although

The ending for this song
Well I haven't really thought of one
There's nothing I could ever say
That could really take the pain away

is a fair description of the sheer length of time it's taking to move towards any chance of some actual accountability being taken, of some arrests, of some justice and conclusions. Feels like they'll drag out the inquiry until anyone who could possibly face charges is dead or too ill to face a trial .... how does all this help the families....but anyway, more random thoughts
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Old 18-09-2013, 23:24
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As I'm having this rule where I don't download the leak (with the exception for William's Last Words, okay?) and I only listen to the songs on the radio until I get the cd, I still haven't heard full album, because stupid mail still hasn't delivered it to me. Oh so I live in the wild land, but I am so annoyed!
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Old 19-09-2013, 07:02
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As I'm having this rule where I don't download the leak (with the exception for William's Last Words, okay?) and I only listen to the songs on the radio until I get the cd, I still haven't heard full album, because stupid mail still hasn't delivered it to me. Oh so I live in the wild land, but I am so annoyed!
There's a CD race right now through Europe. None has got to Italy, Spain or Germany. I guess not to France either... Who will win?
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