did nicky really play all the instruments apart from the drums?

because a lot of it seems rather above him (ie, the solo in kimino rock)

[Tom]

I doubt it. I reckon he just wrote the basic chords and one of the Secret Society (there are two other guitarists aren't there?) wrote a solo over the top of it

[Dai_in_the_summertime]

It pisses me off that Wire is seen as a musician. He can't play a note on the Manics albums, it's always james who does the bass.

[Tom]

he's not seen a musician. and he does play the bass parts. he's not a bad bass player, he just likes plays up to his reputation of being a bit shit

Originally Posted by ASmileBehindBrokenTeeth

It pisses me off that Wire is seen as a musician.

he plays the guitar

therefore, he is a musician

any problems?

[adore failure]

Originally Posted by ASmileBehindBrokenTeeth

It pisses me off that Wire is seen as a musician. He can't play a note on the Manics albums, it's always james who does the bass.

Nicky had always played guitar until Flicker left the Manics and so he had to start playing the bass so the guitar is his first instrument. There is nothing to suggest that Nicky doesn't play on the Manics albums, although there was a rumour that James was the only Manic to play on Generation Terrorists.

[Dai_in_the_summertime]

Originally Posted by adore failure

Nicky had always played guitar until Flicker left the Manics and so he had to start playing the bass so the guitar is his first instrument. There is nothing to suggest that Nicky doesn't play on the Manics albums, although there was a rumour that James was the only Manic to play on Generation Terrorists.

James played the bass line on Archives Of Pain, Miss Europa Disco Dancer. Ok, he plays the guitar....badly.

[centralscrutiniser]

Originally Posted by adore failure

Nicky had always played guitar until Flicker left the Manics and so he had to start playing the bass so the guitar is his first instrument. There is nothing to suggest that Nicky doesn't play on the Manics albums, although there was a rumour that James was the only Manic to play on Generation Terrorists.

Do you mean drums as well? Nicky seems a perfectly competant bass player, particually compared to some of the other bassists around.

Originally Posted by ASmileBehindBrokenTeeth

Ok, he plays the guitar....badly.

so? he still plays it as a profession, so he's a musician

no-one said he's a good musician

[Dai_in_the_summertime]

Originally Posted by Fred Jones

so? he still plays it as a profession, so he's a musician

no-one said he's a good musician

Oh, I'm sorry. I don't mean to sound sacreligious in the Church Of Wire. Jesus, I don't class him as any sort of musician. Sorry.

[Tom]

so anyway, did he play all the instruments on the album, or do you reckon someone else did?

[Dai_in_the_summertime]

I reckon James played on the album, personally. I think Nicky "strummed" a bit.

[counterlanguage]

I reckon the demo of I Killed The Zeitgeist is all Nicky (well, it could only be him singing anyway) which makes me think he did all the basic tracks with Greg Haver then the others in the band filled in a bit. He's obviously capable of playing decent rhythm guitar.

[adore failure]

Originally Posted by centralscrutiniser

Do you mean drums as well?

I believe a drum machine was used on GT.

[counterlanguage]

Originally Posted by adore failure

I believe a drum machine was used on GT.

Yes, I've read a few times that programmed drums were used on GT.