EMG20??? :o

[gracie]

I wanted to hear another very politically charged album but to be honest, I've been a Manics fan for so long now, Nicky's harping on has gotten kind of tedious.
I feel it's more for the young to put their anger at the government and the world and how it's run into lyrics, ( ) is right.

I still like angry and loud, but that paired with politics is a no-no for me. They're too old IMO.
Less heavy political songs would be okay but not THB esque and not an entire album.
Maybe a track that's a bit KYE-ish, toned down so middle aged men don't sound like tits playing it.

[hummingbird]

Originally Posted by gracie

I wanted to hear another very politically charged album but to be honest, I've been a Manics fan for so long now, Nicky's harping on has gotten kind of tedious.
I feel it's more for the young to put their anger at the government and the world and how it's run into lyrics, ( ) is right.

I still like angry and loud, but that paired with politics is a no-no for me. They're too old IMO.
Less heavy political songs would be okay but not THB esque and not an entire album.
Maybe a track that's a bit KYE-ish, toned down so middle aged men don't sound like tits playing it.

they've always had politics in their songs in one form or another... Nicky writes lyrics from a social historian perspective... what should they write about? You can still be interested in the world in your 40s, 50s and beyond. Rewind the film had songs looking at getting older more suited to their age and you didn't like it

[gracie]

Originally Posted by hummingbird

they've always had politics in their songs in one form or another... Nicky writes lyrics from a social historian perspective... what should they write about? You can still be interested in the world in your 40s, 50s and beyond. Rewind the film had songs looking at getting older more suited to their age and you didn't like it

I meant like very intense political albums. Like GT/KYE/THB.

I'm not even sure what I want to be quite honest Anything Manics-y and I'll probably like it. I do love Nicky's lyrics, really.

[hummingbird]

As long as the choons are good I don't care what James sings about

[scott_laconia]

At this stage in their career they should celebrate the success of this album, it terms of history of the band its the album that changed everything for them.

[Geranium Terrorists]

Originally Posted by Anaconda Vice

really raw stripped back more "rock"-y album like KYE was in places, I'd be up for that.

I'd love an album like that! Perhaps not as messy as KYE but in the same vein. Maybe they'd play Dead Martyrs live (finally)!

[Littlesue]

Originally Posted by hummingbird

As long as the choons are good I don't care what James sings about

This, Nicky's lyrics not political to the average joe on the street so unless you are well read would mean nothing to you anyhow.

[Dancing Kirby]

Lyrics matter. JDB wasted his time writing a good tune for Intravenous Agnostic.

Anyhoo, with EMG having four big hits, they could be a bit more courageous with the second set and throw in some of the album's b-sides. Mr Carbohydrate in particular would deserve to be played on any such tour.

[hummingbird]

Originally Posted by Dancing Kirby

Lyrics matter. JDB wasted his time writing a good tune for Intravenous Agnostic.

Anyhoo, with EMG having four big hits, they could be a bit more courageous with the second set and throw in some of the album's b-sides. Mr Carbohydrate in particular would deserve to be played on any such tour.

For me if I don't like the tune I won't listen to the song however good the lyrics are. Agree with the rest of your post tho So many good b - sides it would be a massive waste not to play them.

[andy]

Originally Posted by amaitheanhorn

I'd love them to do an EMG20 tour. I love how the feel and meaning of a song can change when played in the context the album. The THB songs were amazingly powerful when played as part of the album set and I think EMG would be euphoric.

I definitely don't agree they're becoming a museum band at all. There is nothing wrong with a band celebrating their past work and I think the album sets are a great way to do this.

agreed - plus I'm a deep cuts guy. I appreciate ADFL and what it did for the band and it is a corker don't get me wrong...but so many of the tracks on that album could/should have been singles.

Further Away was a Japanese single but not released over here and its a mega track, no surface all feeing (while played live at times) is not given the hearing it should have live, removables should always be played live

[andy]

Originally Posted by hummingbird

For me if I don't like the tune I won't listen to the song however good the lyrics are. Agree with the rest of your post tho So many good b - sides it would be a massive waste not to play them.

black garden, hanging on and no-one knows...

those are 3 corkers and just off cd1 of EMG. Nevermind the other corkers like first republic, sepia, the covers off australia

[Abstract Unknown Girl]

Originally Posted by hummingbird

For me if I don't like the tune I won't listen to the song however good the lyrics are.

Yep, that's always been how I've felt too. I can cope with not-so-great lyrics if the tune is great, but not the other way round.

[Marconi Delorian]

Would kill to hear Black Garden live! Maybe Nicky is good enough to play the bassline now, no chance he played it in 1996!

[Geranium Terrorists]

Originally Posted by Marconi Delorian

no chance he played it in 1996!

Probably not live, but in studio it's very likely that he played it/could play it. Not too hard (tbh Sleepflower is only a bit easier and he could do that fine)

[ponderosa]

It would be sooo nice if they could make it to the states for this one! But I doubt it