ABBREVIATIONS

[Joe-eh]

FMJ

[franny]

Originally Posted by Joe-eh

FMJ

Happens to the best of us. Just DMC it.

[Porco]

"IDGWIATB...using abbreviations"

[Red]

I agree completely. Annoys the fuck out of my when I have to try and decipher some (occasionally mistyped) acronym. It's so much easier to type and to read "Tolerate" rather than "IYTTYCWBN".

There's a reason for writing song titles in acronyms, you know. I believe it falls under one of the numerous communicative psychology theories, and is basically the idea that by speaking in code, outsiders can be kept out. You can see the same sort of exclusive code-speak everywhere. Check out txtspeak as it's used on Bebo. Someone's 50 year old mum is going to have a hella difficult time working that out. Same with local slang, dialect and accent. It's kinda similar to when you were a kid, and you were still getting acquainted with the language. How many times at school did some kid discover a new word, and use it repeatedly within the context of "Do you know what 'snog' means? No? Haha, virgin lips!"? I'll bet everyone had a kid like that in their year.


In short, acronyms aren't a convenience, they're a deliberately exclusive language. Do you speak to a tourist or an immigrant the way you would speak to someone you grew up with? 'Course not. So, on this Manics-loving (Proevpete aside, natch) community, should we encourage n00bs with inclusive language, or confuse and repel them with exclusive?

[Joe-eh]

I don't think it's a two sided thing this. Acronyms such as EMG, THB, KYE, SATT which are short and will come up extremely often being album titles, are certainly easy enough to work out and useful for everyone.

Using an acronym such as BOTBN or DMLDD, which I bet even some long term users have to think twice about, is counter productive.

Then again I don't let little things like this annoy me.

[Porco]

Originally Posted by Red

In short,

I see what you've done there. And I like it.

Seriously, I think you make an interesting point, but more often than not I think it's probably more about simple laziness than a psychological proclivity for exclusivity.

[Deets]

Originally Posted by franny

ROFL? IYTTYCWBN, I agree they should stop.

Originally Posted by Takk

TLA FTW?

Originally Posted by franny

TMI

Originally Posted by Takk

DMY

Originally Posted by Dancing Kirby

AOGTFO

Originally Posted by franny

VCR!

Originally Posted by Joe-eh

FMJ

AWGTHGTTA?

[franny]

Originally Posted by Deets

AWGTHGTTA?

4REAL

I don't think we do it to be exclusive though I think there is an element of competiveness in who can most quickly work out an acronym.

[Joe-eh]

Originally Posted by franny

4REAL

I don't think we do it to be exclusive though I think there is an element of competiveness in who can most quickly work out an acronym.

Sadly enough I think there's a vague amount of truth in this.

[Deets]

I think some abbreviations are funny and some are pointless, especially most of those that are more than 4 letters long (with exception for YLAINE), I even don't shorten TIMTTMY, I simply write TIMT.
the worst is MASH, because you never know if it's Me And Stephen Hawking or Theme From M.A.S.H.

[starstruck]

Originally Posted by Joe-eh

I don't think it's a two sided thing this. Acronyms such as EMG, THB, KYE, SATT which are short and will come up extremely often being album titles, are certainly easy enough to work out and useful for everyone.

you do appreciate that the only acronym there is SATT, don't you? unless you can tell me how to pronounce the words EMG and KYE, as well as explaining the definition of the word KYE.....

[franny]

SIS and SSI are confusing as well.

BBB

[Porco]

Originally Posted by leericketts

you do appreciate that the only acronym there is SATT, don't you? unless you can tell me how to pronounce the words EMG and KYE, as well as explaining the definition of the word KYE.....

'Em-Guh': 'to sound a bit like a Phil Spector production'

KYE, like 'sky'; 'to fail to edit something down to a reasonable quantity' (esp. in commercial music releases).



But YMMV.

[Joe-eh]

Originally Posted by leericketts

you do appreciate that the only acronym there is SATT, don't you? unless you can tell me how to pronounce the words EMG and KYE, as well as explaining the definition of the word KYE.....

I'M SO SORRY I USED THE WRONG WORD!

[franny]

Originally Posted by Joe-eh

I'M SO SORRY I USED THE WRONG WORD!

Well I'm disappointed.