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They're sweet lyrics. But when I got the album witht the artwork I was shocked at just how much had been whittled out. Tzb is right, the song was completely re-written.
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The taking 'you're the best friends I ever had' line out of context and turning it into his own self-gratification is the bit I cringe at most. If he'd not used that one line, I might have been able to view his mawkish edit more charitably. It's like Nicky decided to invent a parallel world where Richey gave a shit about his friends or his family when he [whatever]. Unless there's a suicide or leaving note that we don't know about, I'd contest that he didn't give any of them much thought. Not that I want to come across as someone who holds selfishness against those who can't go on with life. And in a way, the sentimentality isn't something that Nicky should be ashamed of. It's a peaceful note to end on, it's the romantic view that those closest to Richey perhaps deserve. It's just not *cough* 4 REAL. |
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I love JFPL. I can take or leave WLW.
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agreed. It's a beautiful song. Sentimental maybe but why the hell not?
the editing on JFPL isn't that big a deal. They've always done it..we've no idea how songs started out. Wasn't design for life two pages long originally? I bet there'd be a number moaning that the song had been hacked to death if they'd seen the long version. |
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We've no idea how other songs started out, no - but no other songs were edited as farewell notes to "the best friends I ever had". We do know this one was completely twisted to be a tribute to the very people who were editing it, which reading the original copy it quite obviously wasn't.
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What's wrong with cutting his words into a context where he's telling them he loves them but is "going to sleep"? You really don't see how irresponsible/egotistical that is? Or how far from the actual lyrics that interpretation is? Who knows, you say. Why would they "know" this is what he meant from those lyrics? It's pretty fucking presumptuous to have assumed that's what he meant!
You can wish for something without hacking something completely different to give that meaning, then publishing it as "his lyrics".
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no they don't *know* ..they just made the decision to use the line that way and considering they knew richey i think they're best placed to decide what's appropriate ..not us. They're just song lyrics anyway..they didn't publish words from a private diary or anything like that. I don't buy all this *oooh richey's sacred words we must not defile* business. |
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Who is saying that? I have no problem with them editing his words to fit songs, or to follow a consistent thread (as they did on the rest of the record), I just don't see any of the context they edited into WLW in the original text. That strikes me as pretty shameful considering the context they actually did go with. And I'm clearly not the only one.
And they couldn't be worse placed to decide a general song about a general situation was actually a secret farewell note to us!
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And rightly so. If they didn't have that policy, 'Faster' would never have seen the light of day!
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Quite. All the best Manics songs he wrote were supposedly edited massively. I've never encountered anyone who has a problem with that.
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Anyway, if you dig the tune as is, that's cool! Everyone gets something different from art so all the power to you! I'm sure you aren't alone in that regard. |
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