Everything Must Go? - Page 2 - Forever Delayed

YouLoveMe · #16 21-09-2010, 17:47

It's my joint favourite with THB.... Interiors and Removables are the only "filler" tracks on it for me, while Elvis, ADFL, Enola/Alone,TGWWTB and ASNF are among my favourite Manics songs ever.

YouLoveMe · #17 21-09-2010, 17:48

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Originally Posted by Jackie Collins

I could never rate them in order. I change my mind depending on time.mood, etc or hearing a track that I had forgotten how good it was so it leads me to stick the album on!

I'm in a serious minority as I have TIMT at the top. Lifeblood and KYE sit firmly at the bottom. The others - I love them all!

Is that you?!

The Gutless Wonder · #18 21-09-2010, 18:25

Think I just over listened to EMG when I first got it and then the 10th anniversary edition. Love it but amongst the other albums it usually ends up in the middle somewhere. Think it's 6th at the moment!

Siouxsie Sway · #19 21-09-2010, 18:31

uhm, I dunno why it doesn't really 'stick' with me. it's absolutley better than most albums by other artists, ever, I'm not gonna diss it compared to other shit out there, it's just in my bottom three of Manics-albums cause i don't think it has any 'gaaah...I LOOOOVE THIS SONG!'-tops that I find in most of Manics other albums.
also, I get a lil lump in my throat sometimes when putting it on, well post-Richey's 'bye-bye' and all, obviously.

but then again, I rank GT as my no 1 of their albums, so what do I know

(THB and GATS as no 2 and 3)

River Boy · #20 21-09-2010, 18:56

I always rate it as one of their 4, maybe 5, masterpieces, not necessarily as my favourite but I think it will always be their defining album. It's a great mixture of majesty and sorrow, warm in sentiment but cold because of a sense of loss, while being enigmatic enough to feel like a personal work that, for me, separates it from the Britpop at the time.

The biggest myth about the album was that there was anything commercial about it. The first time I heard it I thought it was far too quirky and refined to be really successful.

The Vorticist · #21 21-09-2010, 19:52

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Originally Posted by Richey83

It's my 2nd behind THB, with JFPL taking 3rd place.

Ditto.

Kieslowski · #22 21-09-2010, 22:01

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Originally Posted by Siouxsie Sway

i don't think it has any 'gaaah...I LOOOOVE THIS SONG!'-tops that I find in most of Manics other albums.

I think that's one of my problems with it as well, and is possibly going to be a problem with the new album too in years to come. Every other album has a song or two that I sometimes just have to listen to because of some massive urge, which then make me end up listening to the whole album.
GT: You Love Us, Stay Beautiful, NatWest etc (dunno why)
GATS: Sleepflower (first track - good place to put it since I'm then guaranteed to listen to the whole album)
THB: All of them, basically
TIMTTMY: The Everlasting, Ready For Drowning, Born A Girl, SYMM (bizarrely, despite hating it for years)
KYE: Dead Martyrs, The Convalescent
LB: 1985, To Repel Ghosts
SATT: title track, The Second Great Depression, Imperial Bodybags
JFPL: Peeled Apples, Marlon JD... actually, most of them

I think the closest EMG gets is Small Black Flowers, but then it's followed by TGWWTBG, and I just imagine people bouncing up and down like it's an Oasis gig and it completely puts me off.

Porco · #23 21-09-2010, 22:07

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Originally Posted by Kieslowski

I think that's one of my problems with it as well, and is possibly going to be a problem with the new album too in years to come. Every other album has a song or two that I sometimes just have to listen to because of some massive urge, which then make me end up listening to the whole album.

See for me, I've had that urge to listen to a track on EMG for every single track at one time or another. Even Removables, Interiors and Further Away which people seem to regard as the lesser tracks.

eh, horses for courses and all that.

Kieslowski · #24 22-09-2010, 00:37

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Originally Posted by Porco

See for me, I've had that urge to listen to a track on EMG for every single track at one time or another. Even Removables, Interiors and Further Away which people seem to regard as the lesser tracks.

eh, horses for courses and all that.

Removables and Interiors are two of the tracks I actually quite like on it! Possibly because they were the two I learned on guitar first

Bryter Layter · #25 22-09-2010, 02:07

It's a beautiful album...stylistically, it's all over the place and I love that. Took me a few years to really appreciate it as a complete album, but when I finally did, I recognized why so many hold a special place for it. Sincerely one of their best albums.

On a personal level, it hovers around the top 4 Manics albums for me - sometimes I'm on a TIMT kick, sometimes it's EMG. Lately I've been rediscovering the class of LB so that's ranked as my second favourite currently, but this may change. THB has always been and will forever be my most loved Manics record.

Scarecrow · #26 22-09-2010, 02:15

Good optimistic sound, decent range of styles, both Richey and Nicky's lyrics shaping some tracks. Few on there I find a little average though. Doesn't blow me away or hold itself up as special to me as a few of their other albums. Probably my fifth favourite, but one of the first ones I'd recommend to people.

mute solitude · #27 22-09-2010, 02:20

THB. JFPL. EMG

Slideling · #28 22-09-2010, 02:29

I only like Removables. The album sounds like the sad end of their youths. Postcards is a continuation of that theme, musically and ideologically, and not in a good way.

Katabasis · #29 22-09-2010, 10:19

Comes in at 3 for me. THB is top of the pile and I generally place TIMTTMY 2nd, although EMG sometimes gets ahead of it. These three albums represent the Manics peak for me. Lifeblood is my next favourite Manics album, but it's a step or two down from these three.

There's a great flow through the album, though for me, Removables is the one spot it flags a bit. I like the contrast between what seems, superficially, to be a sunny, optimistic sounding record and the unrelenting undercurrent of melancholy that EMG carries. It's a contrast that I'm always a sucker for and EMG is a great representative of this.

For a while I didn't think much of Elvis Impersonator. It seemed like an unfinished idea presented as a track, and on it's own, I still tend to feel that way, but as a kind of intro to this album it's actually fantastic.

Though I prefer the other two albums, EMG is generally the album I present to people as an introductory disc as THB is too dark, weird and literate for most and TIMTTMY is too slow and morose.

Top three tracks - Enola/Alone, EMG and ADFL

darkanddivine · #30 22-09-2010, 12:28

I have almost always seen the run of THB, EMG and TIMT that completely sum this band up. While all have some small flaws, they are small and in fact add to their brilliance in their own ways.

Everything Must Go is watershed album for the band when a lot of new young fans got into them for the first time. I it kindof reminds me of how people dislike a good album like Nevermind, it's often just because it got heavily rotated, and then probably overplayed to some extent.