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Old 25-02-2011, 14:53
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Yeah excellent song. To be honest I just have a bizarre love for the album, it's sonically perfect (for me), big bass and crunch sounds, and just reminds me of the summer it came out, which was pretty glorious.
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Old 25-02-2011, 15:30
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One of my favourites on the album, definitely one of my favourite singles from the last decade. Criminally underplayed live.
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Old 25-02-2011, 15:44
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Aye. A genuinely lovely song that nailed all that they were trying and failing to do on PFAYM.
And it pisses on Autumnsong from a great height. Put it back in the set please.
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Old 25-02-2011, 17:51
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Gorgeous song, and I love the instrumental version too.
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Some people might know me from my harsh criticism of PFAYM when it was released there in Sept (was it Sept - I don't even remember!!) I havent listened to the album since before Christmas. It just sounds too over produced for me with weak songs.

Anyhow one positive that has come out of this is that I have rediscovered SATT. I didn't overly listen to it at the time but I've found a new appreciation for it.

I really cannot stop listening to Indian Summer though. For me it is the nostalgic anthem that many of the songs from PFAYM are trying to me. Ok, so the lyric might not be a politically or socially charged as some of Nickys best, but the nostalgic melancholy of male friendship strikes a chord with me. Particularly the line, 'Maybe this time we'll kiss and we'll not shake hands,' and also them 'finding the reasons, the reasons that made us be'.

I really dig the video for it as well. JDB looks like he really digs that song when they are doing the performance bits in it.

Great solo in it too.
My second fave Manics track ever after Song For Departure
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Old 25-02-2011, 19:07
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I love the track too, think it's the best track on SATT and agree with all of the postitive comments in this thread. "Maybe this time we'll kiss and we'll not shake hands" is the line that gets me the most in the song too, I like the video, and often watch this acoustic version.
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Old 25-02-2011, 21:07
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Lovely song,one of my favourites. I also think SATT > PFAYM,although maybe that's just because SATT was the first album I listened to.
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Old 25-02-2011, 21:20
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I was getting excited reading this thread, as no-one seemed to have mentioned its similarity to ADFL, which is a good thing.

And then I looked more closely and realised that both StarBright and Deets mentioned it, ah well...

Anyhow, probably my favourite off SATT. Criminally underrated really.
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Old 25-02-2011, 21:29
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Aye. A genuinely lovely song that nailed all that they were trying and failing to do on PFAYM.
And it pisses on Autumnsong from a great height. Put it back in the set please.
Autumnsong is my fave from SATT!
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I used to think Indian Summer was very average and I used to skip it. WHen it was announced as a single I was like "what??!" so I played it some more to understand why. After a bunch of repeated listens I thought it was really good. Funnily enough, I had this as one of about 4 Manics songs on my Ipod when I was in Australia in 2008 backpacking and i played stuff a lot and a lovely Canadian girl I was seeing at the time was singing it all the time and she said it was a good song despite knowing nothing else by the Manics! This is my main memory and thought of Indian Summer The solo is very cool too
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I never understood why people said it was a rip-off of "A Design For Life". What, it has the same time signature?! So do a lot of other songs!! I personally think "Indian Summer" is one of the few tracks from SATT that is truly enjoyable. A big thumbs-up from me.
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I never understood why people said it was a rip-off of "A Design For Life". What, it has the same time signature?! So do a lot of other songs!!
Exactly! By their logic every song in a standard 4/4 signature is a rip-off of eachother.
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Well it's 2/2 time really though, innit?

Theres a few little similarities, to Design for Life - enough for people to pick up on obviously. Similar beat and time signature, arpeggio guitar, similar falling string break in the middle, lush orchestration. Not enough for it to be a rip-off, just a few shared characteristics is all. It makes a nice 'sister' song. Beautiful.
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Well it's 2/2 time really though, innit?

Theres a few little similarities, to Design for Life - enough for people to pick up on obviously. Similar beat and time signature, arpeggio guitar, similar falling string break in the middle, lush orchestration. Not enough for it to be a rip-off, just a few shared characteristics is all. It makes a nice 'sister' song. Beautiful.
it sounds odd when both are played live together though. IMHO.
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Old 26-02-2011, 09:19
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it sounds odd when both are played live together though. IMHO.
From what I've heard, Indian Summer never sounded that great live.
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