DVD of 02

[The Crow]

It would be daft not to have it filmed or at least have it recorded for a possible digital MP3 release

[UEF]

Maybe they'll do a Christmas special.

[Dancing Kirby]

Originally Posted by starstruck

can you point us in the direction of the other December gigs they've played where they opted to wear Santa hats for doing Of Walking Abortion?

Never for one second think JDB would be afraid to wear a Santa Hat while promoting The Holy Bible.

[starstruck]

Originally Posted by Dancing Kirby

Never for one second think JDB would be afraid to wear a Santa Hat while promoting The Holy Bible.

blimey, you really can learn something new every day! that looks class!

Originally Posted by sculptureofabloke

Can't remember where but I've definitely seen JDB wearing a McDonalds cap that someone threw on stage at a gig. That's the best I've got.

oh that would be class! that's the Manics equivalent of when at Boro vs Newcastle some fans pelted Gazza with Mars bars. Gazza picked one up, ate it and said cheers.

on that note, has anyone ever tried to get a pie onstage for James?

[gallafield]

I'm hoping they'll do what suede did with their o2 gig, and have it available for download immediately following the performance. That was quite cool. I had only been home from the gig for an hour or so, and I had bought a recording of it.

Or they could do what the music did with their last gigs, and have the majority of the set available to buy immediately following the gig, having been burned to cd during the encore, with a printed blank cd onto which to record the encore from the internet when I got home. Though that wouldd require the manics to do an encore, which I can't see happening.

[Takk]

So live albums are a contractual cash-in but two greatest hits in a decade is okay?

[starstruck]

Originally Posted by Takk

So live albums are a contractual cash-in but two greatest hits in a decade is okay?

two sides of the same coin, really. greatest hits could be seen as the lesser evil purely because they can sometimes put together not available / not on another album songs, as was certainly the case with FD. not so much the new one, granted, not so much.

[Takk]

Originally Posted by starstruck

two sides of the same coin, really. greatest hits could be seen as the lesser evil purely because they can sometimes put together not available / not on another album songs, as was certainly the case with FD. not so much the new one, granted, not so much.

Well, the odd song...most are singles. A live album could do that with bsides, and the songs wouldn't exist on any other release.

[starstruck]

Originally Posted by Takk

Well, the odd song...most are singles. A live album could do that with bsides, and the songs wouldn't exist on any other release.

i get where you're coming from, but we are "missing" the other market - an awful lot of people like just getting Greatest Hits things rather than all the albums by a particular band. the same audience is unlikely to buy a live variant rather than a best-of featuring the studio recordings.

[Takk]

Yeah, but doesn't that make it more of a cash-in than the live album?

[starstruck]

Originally Posted by Takk

Yeah, but doesn't that make it more of a cash-in than the live album?

i would say with a greatest hits there's more of a win-win, really. casual fans and people that don't have all the albums or non-album singles get what they want, fans with everything get an at least decent compilation with a bonus track or two and the band get some income.

with live albums, with a few notable exceptions they appeal to the colllectors / loyal fanbase only, meaning they sell less, at least i would assume.

in regards of live albums being a bit of a con, well, there are a few out there that have very clearly been rather nicely cleaned up in the studio prior to release, so how much of it is "live" is debatable. i seem to recall, and i really don't want to be picking on them but it is the best example i can remember, Simple Minds' Live In The City Of Lights sounds so cleaned up that it might as well be just studio versions of everything with the odd sample of a crowd thrown in.

[framedadolescence]

I, like many, felt Cardiff could be a DVD but they tend to use screens at arena shows anyway. I guess it had been a little while since i'd seen them use a screen. SATT winter tour maybe?

It's been way too long without a live dvd so this should be released. It'd probably (need to be) quite cut down for commercial release.

[sculptureofabloke]

Originally Posted by Takk

So live albums are a contractual cash-in but two greatest hits in a decade is okay?

To be fair it's been 9 years and four albums since FD. I dunno, I think it'd have been fair enough to release a compilation now, but preferebaly a best of rather than a singles collection. I think four studio albums is really the minimum you should put out before making a compilation but a hell of a lot of bands have done it after less and plenty of bands now have more compilations than studio albums.

Still, I'd love an official live album. No doubt they've got loads of stuff stored away somewhere. Would rather it be a cohesive gig than a compilation of live tracks though. Don't really get why they've been so opposed to releasing a live album, they've released a lot of live stuff on b-sides and bonus disks, off the top of my head they've released about 50 live tracks anyway.

I suppose the main difference is a casual fan's more likely to buy a best of than a live album, but sods like us will buy them all anyway.

[roi]

Given that they don't seem 100% confident about every song they're doing (So Why So Sad, Revol) they might not be up for releasing the entire thing.

[y2kyle16]

It'd be moronic not to film it.