Send away the tigers v Postcards for a Young man

[The Gutless Wonder]

I enjoy both!

[Oh Nick...!]

Really surprised how many people are saying SATT, that's the one Manics album I'd never listen to. It turned me off them till Journal, and it normally gets plenty of hatred on here. Whereas Postcards got loads of love when it came out, and some tracks I really like, though the general bombast means I do rarely play it.

[allisvanity]

SATT for me. PFAYM is easily my least favourite Manics record, only Golden Platitudes and Don't Be Evil ever get played.

SATT has a great title track, YLAINE, and I actually really like I'm Just a Patsy, Rendition and Winterlovers. It's just a shame about Autumnsong.

[Scarecrow]

Originally Posted by allisvanity

It's just a shame about Autumnsong.

This is the phrase that wakes me up in a cold sweat in the middle of the night.

[Routine Builder]

SATT feels like one album where feels like shreds of two separate albums thrown together. It feels like one half is trying to be EMG and the other KYE and it flows with the grace of a beached whale.

That said, some of the songs sound excellent in isolation. Why 'All we make is entertainment' was not made into a lead single is beyond comprehension to me. It's got the hooks for morning radio listeners and the musical technicality for the indie stations. Instead we got 'it's not war' with the cringiest guitar solo in history, sounds like a dog howling while being neutered...

[allisvanity]

Originally Posted by NasalScarecrow

This is the phrase that wakes me up in a cold sweat in the middle of the night.

It's just the worst isn't it? I remember being forced to buy the single too, because it had Red Sleeping Beauty on it. Bastards.

[Scarecrow]

It's one of those songs that makes me an embarrassed apologist. Friends who aren't fans hear something like that or INW on the radio, and wonder why I attend every tour. Find myself saying "Oh but they have some amazing stuff too!"

[Takk]

Originally Posted by Oh Nick...!

Really surprised how many people are saying SATT, that's the one Manics album I'd never listen to. It turned me off them till Journal, and it normally gets plenty of hatred on here. Whereas Postcards got loads of love when it came out, and some tracks I really like, though the general bombast means I do rarely play it.

SATT had way more love when it came out, I thought Postcards got a lot of bashing relatively when it came out.

[allisvanity]

Originally Posted by Takk

I thought Postcards got a lot of bashing relatively when it came out.

It followed (the mighty) Journal For Plague Lovers. It may have been doomed from the start a little bit, but it is pretty shit regardless of when it was released.

[Suicide Aldi]

I like autumnsong. It makes me feel all warm and happy inside, and fills me with nostalga for doing my paper round in the rain listening endlessly to SATT.

So there!!

[nocultureicons]

Originally Posted by The Gutless Wonder

I enjoy both!

OMG RLY NO WEI

[Takk]

Originally Posted by allisvanity

It followed (the mighty) Journal For Plague Lovers. It may have been doomed from the start a little bit, but it is pretty shit regardless of when it was released.

I wonder if they have it in them to just write 10 albums like that, and whether that would be better or worse.

[Dancing Kirby]

I suppose if there was a gun pointed to my head and I was absolutely forced to listen to one of the two, I'd take being shot.

[Librarian On Fire]

Originally Posted by Takk

SATT had way more love when it came out, I thought Postcards got a lot of bashing relatively when it came out.

You should never bash your relatives.

[Librarian On Fire]

I really don't like James' vocals on "Send Away The Tigers". They are far too shouty. Is shouty a word? The songs are bit too quiet, quiet, loud in their structure.