Postcards From A Young Man Thread - Page 210 - Forever Delayed

Porco · #**3136** 01-10-2010, 17:27

I've been listening to some of the album literally backwards. The Descent is the one. Must be the Beatles' influence.

The chorus appears to be an attack upon the Super Nintendo, perhaps a throw-back to their Sega MegaDrive-playing days.

Snes is a lousy sip
Snes is a loud forward
Snes, sneaky bo ma ha!
Snes is a lousy sip

I'll try and do the rest of the lyrics later, sounds like something about beasts and creationism.

Would you like some coffee? *Shuffles out of thread Twin Peaks dwarf style...*

Porco · #**3137** 01-10-2010, 20:36

OK, I think I figured out the whole song now. Friends, it's chilling. The Descent? Descent into madness more like. It started as a joke, but the verses are fairly freaky.

Might be a few words out here and there, but this is what it genuinely sounds like if you listen to The Descent (Pages 1&2) - backwards. You have been warned.

Stale leashed disease new pup
Snes is a loud forward
Snes, sneaky bo mo ha!
Snes is a lousy sip

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[solo]
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Stale leashed disease new pup
Snes is a loud forward
Snes, sneaky bo mo ha!
Snes is a lousy sip

Snes is a lousy sip
Snes is a loud forward
Snes, sneaky bo mo ha!
Snes is a lousy sip
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Near in the bed the beasts lay
Tea nests, tea is near wine-mousse, ain't easy
They follow, wanna parry, oh.
and ohhhi, he's got fire-ants up early every Sunday
oohhhh, if whiskey gave amorousness then they would

would… and help us give him the loose key, mourned to rib
oooOoohf, they wake him with the nests and the weed
Stare-ere the super-past he racks up about how he is
May-ay you're all through nice asians gets, get my way

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Snes is a lousy sip
Snes is a loud forward
Snes, sneaky bo ma ha!
Snes is a lousy sip

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Near in the bed the beasts lay
Tea nests, tea is near wine-mousse, ain't easy
They follow, wanna parry, oh
And ohhhi, he's got fire-ants up early every Sunday
Oohhhh, if whiskey gave amorousness then they would

Ay, I wanna wrap up snake-noose ameoba up, snail crab!
Yeah, we gave him Halloween and there's all heavy make-up
Creationism and a mur-urmur shall go o'er betrayal

Here would if no'hurry pass up my backgammon up

nimrod · #**3138** 01-10-2010, 20:53

Is it just me, or does Hazelton Avenue bear a passing resemblance to 'Saturday Night' by Suede?

The Gutless Wonder · #**3139** 01-10-2010, 20:54

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Originally Posted by nimrod

Is it just me, or does Hazelton Avenue bear a passing resemblance to 'Saturday Night' by Suede?

I think everyone has been focusing on the resemblance to a certain Lenny Kravitz song!

Abstract Unknown Girl · #**3140** 01-10-2010, 21:49

It reminds me a bit of The Promise by Girls Aloud as well

Beat Poet · #**3141** 02-10-2010, 00:10

Lived with it since the release date and it hasn't grown on me in the slightest, I really don't like the album and think it's the worst they've done by far. Some of the stuff in the second half is barely b-side quality. The title track is the only song with any kind of gusto, the rest (apart from AI) is just so safe and bland. I have no desire to sit down and listen to anything but those two songs. I have no idea why the hell they felt the need to pile on all the strings and choirs, it's just so sugary sweet and MOR. Very disappointed and hope it really is their last shot at selling out.

Matt_o_Mac · #**3142** 02-10-2010, 01:07

Finally formed an opinion on it and I actually I like it for all it's cheesyness I think Wire's written some really personal lyrics, not bettered by Golden Platitudes which is really haunting.

I like it as a record it's not the best Manics album by far but it's far from the worst.

pcp · #**3143** 02-10-2010, 03:37

Lovin' the album 2 weeks on. I can't relate to those who hate it at all. The best thing about the Manics is how they change sounds so effectively from one album to the next. I also think this has more substance than SATT. I am not the biggest fan of INWJTEOL, but I don't skip it either.

ForeverDelayed.com · #**3144** 02-10-2010, 03:55

its very cheesey, a bit too polished for radio at some points. i know that it is EXACTLY the point - but they overdo it - even for the radio its too much. there are a few good tunes (really fucking good actually), and some forgettable moments.

my final verdict is 6.5/10. i like it much more than SATT as an album...

Bryter Layter · #**3145** 02-10-2010, 04:34

After convincing myself for the better part of the last year and a half that I was definitely going to hate this album, I'm quite happy to say that I don hate it. In fact, I think it's pretty damn good for the most part. A few songs are just wrong in every conceivable way *cough...It's not war...cough*, but there are a few that represent some of their best work, particularly Golden Platitudes - solid lyrics (best Nicky lyrics for quite somtime...shame about the rest of the album though) matched only by an amazing bit of music composition. I will say though, I do think they made a huge mistake saturating the album with so much strings, but what do I know? They're the musicians and its their music so it stands to reason that they can do whatever the hell they want. Me, I just try to drown them out as much as possible.

Anyway, is it their best album? No, not quite. It does show great promise for things to come however.

cameron33 · #**3146** 02-10-2010, 04:40

My current feeling about the tracks:
INWJEL - 6.5
PFYM - 8
SKN - 8
DESC - 6
HAV - 7
AI - 6.5
GP - 7
ITFI - 7.5
BB - 6.5
AWME - 7
TF - 7
DBE - 7

Overall it's a 6.5 or a 7. Too sugary and the rocky numbers in particular are too polished.

ulstermanic · #**3147** 02-10-2010, 04:44

I have got into the album more and more and I really like it - given that I pretty much like everything the Manics release this is perhaps biased. A bit of perspective needed here.

My favourite 2 albums are THB and JFPL currently. The music on the new album is excellent, I really like it. And I can't help but think that with Richey's lyrics this new album would be my third favourite. But the lyrics are Nicky's, which makes a big difference to me, the genius is still there but is travelling on a different journey.

Main points in my opinion:
- Nicky Wire's lyrics are not, never have been and never will be as good as Richey's
- The music on the new album is excellent (and certainly in my eyes as good as JFPL music wise)
- choice of single was again slightly dubious in my opinion (as was Nixon and Your Love Alone)

But possibly the most important point for me here is:

Manic Street Preachers have released two excellent albums in the space of 16 months, one of which reflects the history and culture of the band as a four piece; the other which reflects the current mood and culture of the band as a three piece. Proof that the band are still making enjoyable and diverse music.

It is a true testament to the quality of the band that they can release two albums in such a short space of time, including such a diverse range of tracks, and a very obivous difference between both albums.

I sum the two albums up as such...

JFPL - Richey's genius, an album of loneliness, willingness to find solace in your own solitude and the study of people affected slightly by mental health and external conditions beyond their control. 9/10

PFAYM - Nicky's genius, an album of release, confrontation of fears and a more basic perspective on life from those unlikely to be affected by mental health. 7/10

Both albums highlight the absolute genius of James Dean Bradfield and Sean Moore and their ability to work music that fits around lyrics that in the extreme are impossible to contemplate and in normality everyone can relate to.

(though I wouldnt really compare MSP to Radiohead at any point, the release of these two albums is not dissimilar to the release of Kid A (2000) followed by Amnesiac (2001)). The first mellow, melancholy and reflective. The second uplifting and current.

I can understand those who "hate" or "don't like" the new album, however if these people also don't like JFPL, then I think that really you don't quite get the eclectic genius of Manic Street Preachers. Both albums have substance within their separatism.

I will give a more opinionated track by track opinion of PFAYM in about a month or so - always like to let the album "settle" first.

10 full albums (plus a Greatest Hits, B-sides Album and many more tracks) down the line, they are writing themselves into the history books as one of the greatest, most consistent rock and roll bands of all time.

They have already outlasted The Beatles, The Jam and Oasis. Only bands such as REM, U2 and the Rolling Stones (to name 3 obvious ones) can really boast such an oustanding consistent display of guitar based music on this planet over a period of years.

I don't want the book ever to close on the Manic Street Preachers. They can keep writing and releasing for years to come I hope.

Littlesue · #**3148** 02-10-2010, 09:57

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Originally Posted by Beat Poet

Lived with it since the release date and it hasn't grown on me in the slightest, I really don't like the album and think it's the worst they've done by far. Some of the stuff in the second half is barely b-side quality. The title track is the only song with any kind of gusto, the rest (apart from AI) is just so safe and bland. I have no desire to sit down and listen to anything but those two songs. I have no idea why the hell they felt the need to pile on all the strings and choirs, it's just so sugary sweet and MOR. Very disappointed and hope it really is their last shot at selling out.

I have to say that I'm in the same opinion as your good self. I lke the first 5 or 6 tracks but then everything just becomes too much, some accoustic ballads would have broke it up a bit.

centralscrutiniser · #**3149** 02-10-2010, 11:20

Lose the horrible choirs and strings and it would be 100% better.

What do we think of Red Rubber and Evidence Against Myself? Interesting songs - would rather have seen them on the main album than Hazelton Av and Golden Platitudes.

Dancing Kirby · #**3150** 02-10-2010, 11:34

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Originally Posted by centralscrutiniser

What do we think of Red Rubber and Evidence Against Myself? Interesting songs - would rather have seen them on the main album than Hazelton Av and Golden Platitudes.

I can't imagine what it is you find interesting about Evidence Against Myself. Red Rubber would be a contender if they gave it something resembling a proper ending rather than settle for 'fuck it, we've reached three minutes, that'll do'.