Everything Live DVD and 2 disc albums reissues

[Takk]

Originally Posted by A Face In The Crowd

There is no price on the 'declaration' label.

The 'gift' box is ticked, rather than 'commercial' etc. which to my understanding means it should avoid customs charges.

YesAsia is recommended.

I think it's just luck on the part of customs whether you get caught or not.

[Fiver]

Never Want Again sounds like it's been taken from a master tape; there's a tiny drum flourish before it starts - don't think that was in the original? Same deal with Starlover; a bit of bass clunk. The album itself sounds... less washed out. It's still midi drums as far as I can tell, though I don't really have an ear for anything more complex than bam crash wallop.

ETA: Methadone Pretty sounds a LOT meatier.

Originally Posted by lopaz

So are they better quality mixes than the originals would you say?

Well, GT hasn't magically become a well-produced album, but it sounds a little less murky to me...

[lopaz]

Originally Posted by Fiver

Never Want Again sounds like it's been taken from a master tape; there's a tiny drum flourish before it starts - don't think that was in the original? Same deal with Starlover; a bit of bass clunk. The album itself sounds... less washed out. It's still midi drums as far as I can tell, though I don't really have an ear for anything more complex than bam crash wallop.

ETA: Methadone Pretty sounds a LOT meatier.


Well, GT hasn't magically become a well-produced album, but it sounds a little less murky to me...

cool, cheers

[Porco]

Originally Posted by Takk

I think it's just luck on the part of customs whether you get caught or not.

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[tucka]

Originally Posted by lopaz

So are they better quality mixes than the originals would you say? One post on the first page seemed to say they would be exceptionally good

they definitley haven't been remixed but i feel that they have been remastered as least very slightly. GT especially does seem more bass heavy and it is easier to be able to seperate each instrument in your head now. it doesn't sound as 'muddy' now.

its also good to have well mastered versions of motown junk and suicide is painless as before the only versions i had are on FD and that album is mastered horribly.

[Fiver]

Tennessee especially sounds much better. I used to have to turn up the volume whenever that song rolled around. I think it was mentioned a little way back in the thread, but the Heavenly version of You Love Us is the edit - no backing vocals, slightly different solo.

[lopaz]

Originally Posted by tucka

they definitley haven't been remixed but i feel that they have been remastered

I'm gonna be honest, I don't know the difference

[Dancing Kirby]

Originally Posted by Fiver

Never Want Again sounds like it's been taken from a master tape; there's a tiny drum flourish before it starts...

Dead Yankee Drawl also has extra drums at the start, but for reasons unknown both of these slightly altered intros originally featured on the Japanese Suicide Is Painless single.

Originally Posted by lopaz

I'm gonna be honest, I don't know the difference

When remastering something you can't, for instance, replace the midi drums on GT with real ones. That would be a remix, much like the US mixes of selected GT tracks. To my understanding, for a remaster you can only work with what you've already got.

It's true that apart from volume levels I can't detect any notable changes in sound quality on these versions of GT and GATS, but then that was the same for the THB and EMG remasters for the anniversary editions.

Originally Posted by tucka

yes everything does seem to be from the same 'master'. i think basically the levels have been altered so they are all equal or normalised

If only we had these when I regularly made Manics compilations and spent hours trying to normalise everything perfectly with Nero's tools, burnt the disc, realised it didn't quite sound right and repeated the process about seven or eight times.

[Fiver]

Listened to the whole thing this morning - it sounds much better, though nowhere near as good as the Stars and Stripes tracks. It is, however, very nice to have good quality versions of Starlover and Never Want Again, so it was a good find. Looking forward to hearing the other ones.

[nocultureicons]

Originally Posted by Dancing Kirby

When remastering something you can't, for instance, replace the midi drums on GT with real ones. That would be a remix, much like the US mixes of selected GT tracks. To my understanding, for a remaster you can only work with what you've already got.

Wait a minute... are they really midi drums? I assume you're at least talking about drum pads that Sean played rather than someone sitting there with an Atari ST creating each beat.

[tucka]

nope all the drums apart from damn dog i think are programmed

[Porco]

Originally Posted by nocultureicons

Wait a minute... are they really midi drums? I assume you're at least talking about drum pads that Sean played rather than someone sitting there with an Atari ST creating each beat.

Well...

Originally Posted by AmigaPower issue 17, 1992

How long have the band been into computer games, Sean?
"About a year. We were into Amigas and Atari STs through music-making and the studio. After eight to ten hours of total concentration and the pressure of programming drum patterns and everything, switching to games became a welcome release... "

[nocultureicons]

Originally Posted by Porco

Well...

Gosh, that's a shocker. I think Sean should go into the studio with the masters and record *real* drums for the album.

[gabo86]

Originally Posted by nocultureicons

Gosh, that's a shocker. I think Sean should go into the studio with the masters and record *real* drums for the album.

But...it was kinda obvious, if you listen carefully to GT...except Damn Dog (and Democracy Coma, and all the B-sides), GT's drums are entirely programmed.
I can't listen to that record, really. Motorcycle Emptiness, You Love Us...great songs, crap sound.

[lopaz]

Originally Posted by Fiver

though nowhere near as good as the Stars and Stripes tracks

Good?! Do you have an unnatural fetish for drums or something