70 songs of self indulgence? - Page 3 - Forever Delayed

SeveredJoke · #31 25-02-2011, 17:00

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Originally Posted by Takk

Just no to KYE Mark2...They need to not try to be eclectic and just do what they want. If they want success, don't try and push people away...and don't try for commerical success like they did with Postcards. Just do what comes naturally....stuff like TBTGOG and bsides and SATT bsides were brilliant. The Manics don't need to go out and reinvent the wheel...they aren't radiohead, they just need to produce a good solid Manics album, with something a bit new, some great lyrics and some good songs.

No more repetition of lyrics either please. If you can only manage one verse than just do it once and then either stop or do something interesting with the music.

It doesn't have to KYE part 2 for it to be experimental just capture the spirit of some of their more interesting b-sides.

Maybe James could dust off the old GATS era wah-wah pedal

Bryter Layter · #32 25-02-2011, 18:25

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Originally Posted by helvissa

Does this mean they'll turn into Radiohead?

*hope not*

Oh I know! How shit would it be for them to sell loads of albums and have a massive international following? Ewww...who wants that?

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Originally Posted by Takk

Just no to KYE Mark2...They need to not try to be eclectic and just do what they want. If they want success, don't try and push people away...and don't try for commerical success like they did with Postcards. Just do what comes naturally....stuff like TBTGOG and bsides and SATT bsides were brilliant. The Manics don't need to go out and reinvent the wheel...they aren't radiohead, they just need to produce a good solid Manics album, with something a bit new, some great lyrics and some good songs.

Pretty much this. When they don't try so hard, they produce quality music.

TStenner · #33 25-02-2011, 18:53

really like the idea of the recordings being rough like the demos, would give it some edge, which has been lacking in recent years, but i don't think we'll get that, they love that mass communication simply too much!

Takk · #34 25-02-2011, 19:26

I don't think rough/demo is good though...if it means it's not overpolished that's great - but not if they make a concious effort to be rough, then it sounds kinda crap.

Mr Richey · #35 25-02-2011, 19:28

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Originally Posted by Takk

if they make a concious effort to be rough, then it sounds kinda crap.

hummingbird · #36 25-02-2011, 19:29

not KYE MK 2. It didnt work the first time

Takk · #37 25-02-2011, 19:37

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Originally Posted by Mr Richey

At least it didn't say 'know you're enemy'

TStenner · #38 25-02-2011, 21:04

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Originally Posted by Takk

I don't think rough/demo is good though...if it means it's not overpolished that's great - but not if they make a concious effort to be rough, then it sounds kinda crap.

that's true, maybe just find a halfway mark inbetween too rough and too soft

KYE-esque, just cut all the filler.

Mr Richey · #39 25-02-2011, 21:42

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Originally Posted by TStenner

that's true, maybe just find a halfway mark inbetween too rough and too soft

TStenner · #40 25-02-2011, 21:48

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Originally Posted by Mr Richey

now all they have to do is turn that feeling from toilet paper into sound!

Mr Richey · #41 25-02-2011, 21:49

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Originally Posted by TStenner

now all they have to do is turn that feeling from toilet paper into sound!

"Treefingers" by Radiohead is probably the closest you'll ever get to the musical equivalent of the utter softness of Andrex toilet tissue.

TStenner · #42 25-02-2011, 21:55

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Originally Posted by Mr Richey

"Treefingers" by Radiohead is probably the closest you'll ever get to the musical equivalent of the utter softness of Andrex toilet tissue.

ah, this is true, but this is a search for something siding slightly rougher! as much as i love listening to it in the bath, i couldn't handle a whole album of Treefingers, especially not by the manics, it'd just be failure bound x13

Mr Richey · #43 25-02-2011, 21:59

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Originally Posted by TStenner

ah, this is true, but this is a search for something siding slightly rougher!

I don't understand why they didn't expand on the sound of JFPL. For me, that is the perfect sound for the Manics at this point in their career. They've done commercial, they've done introspective, they've done glam punk and they've done KYE. Sadly. But JFPL is the sound of rejuvenation and middle-aged angst. Works perfectly if you ask me.

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Originally Posted by TStenner

...as much as i love listening to it in the bath...

My favourite place to listen to music!

TStenner · #44 25-02-2011, 22:06

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Originally Posted by Mr Richey

I don't understand why they didn't expand on the sound of JFPL. For me, that is the perfect sound for the Manics at this point in their career. They've done commercial, they've done introspective, they've done glam punk and they've done KYE. Sadly. But JFPL is the sound of rejuvenation and middle-aged angst. Works perfectly if you ask me.

My favourite place to listen to music!

mm, i think they got JFPL spot on, but they had a lot of pressure and determinination when making that, and i don't think they'll have that kind of motivation or mindset again, which is quite sad, but understandable

and yes, bath music can be dangerous at times, but i live on the edge.

Mr Richey · #45 25-02-2011, 22:08

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Originally Posted by TStenner

mm, i think they got JFPL spot on, but they had a lot of pressure and determinination when making that, and i don't think they'll have that kind of motivation or mindset again, which is quite sad, but understandable

and yes, bath music can be dangerous at times, but i live on the edge.

I just take a stereo in with me, put it by the door and feed the cable under the door out to a power socket on the landing, at the top of the stairs. Then I put a towel over the back of the stereo to cover the power lead socket. Stereo is a good metre from the bath so safety is guaranteed!

Bath Music; it's a serious business.