17/12/14 London Roundhouse

[Takk]

Originally Posted by sculptureofabloke

Lol this place. Remember this gig? It was great.

That it was.

[Europa Gluten Free]

Originally Posted by Takk

Hardly aggressive, you were the one implying people had some kind of phobia. My post was pretty polite, I'm sorry you have a chip about the bag and assume it's everyone else who are in the wrong for not wanting a bag in their face.

Nothing wrong with a bit of (tea)bagging at a concert.

[Takk]

having to watch people kissing at gigs is bad enough!

[Routine Builder]

Originally Posted by Futurologist

It really doesn't matter how thin you are, if you're in or near the front or the mosh and you're wearing a ruck sack of any size, you need to take it off, however tightly it's strapped to you.

I don't have a 'bag phobia' but being constantly jostled by someone's bag at a gig is at best, annoying and at worst, dangerous. I've asked people to take their bags off at gigs, they've all complied politely. The reason you may not understand why others have a problem when you're wearing it is that you can't feel when it hits someone.

I'd rather be hit by someone's hand or pushed into their back, they can feel it and can adjust themselves. I've been hit in the head with a fist and then had them rub my head to say sorry.

Don't feel that anyone is looking down on you Routine Builder, we're just explaining why we don't like bags on backs at gigs.

So your objection is not because it causes more injury, it's because I wouldn't get hurt when someone bumps into me. That's preference, not necessarily an inconvenience. I'll make it clear I don't go into a pit to push anyone around, I pogo and that's it. If someone complained to me at a gig, I'd seriously consider it and apologise but I'm not considering it based on some people's preferences to have me feel them if they collide into me instead of a softer cushion. I nearly broke my nose banging my face into the back of someone's head before, a bag would have been softer for me and for him.

[hummingbird]

Originally Posted by Routine Builder

So you're objection is not because more injury, it's because I wouldn't get hurt when someone bumps into me. That's preference, not necessarily an inconvenience. I'll make it clear I don't go into a pit to push anyone around, I pogo and that's it. If someone complained to me at a gig, I'd happily consider it politely but I'm not considering it based on some people's preferences to have me feel them if they collide into me instead of a softer cushion.

No. The objection is that you might be hurting someone with your bag without realising. Not everyone will want to complain for fear of being sworn at or whatever else. No one is suggesting you go into a mosh pit to deliberately hurt people.

Incidently canvas rucksacks are nothing like soft cushions.. and i love it when someone hasnt had an experience of something it means the problem doesnt exist despite others stating similar.

Anyway yeah great gig. Those videos posted are ace..thanks for sharing

[Finn]

Originally Posted by sculptureofabloke

Lol this place. Remember this gig? It was great.

Not this place; this fandom.

Also, thanks for the video links, mothers_are_saints.

[mank]

Originally Posted by Takk

having to watch people kissing at gigs is bad enough!

Sorry, guilty as charged. I got a bit excited. Not sure Ingvild appreciated it.

I was about to say that I can't believe this thread has descended into bitching about other fans, bags, queues, barriers, entitlements, Londoners...and then I remembered where I was.

Days later and I'm still buzzing from the gig. I haven't seen the Manics in 12 years and I probably won't bother going to see them again but I feel truly honoured, privileged, touched and awestruck at seeing The Holy Bible, in full, live, played with such anger, emotion and sheer fucking passion. That is what I loved about the Manics when I discovered them in my early teens and that was reinvigorated on Wednesday night.

The Manics are a band that not only entertain me but educated me, enlightened me and offered my the opportunity to not only meet some wonderful people (who I'm awful at keeping in contact with) but the most important person in my life. Wednesday night was about celebrating all of that and I had an incredible time, although I was extremely grumpy from about 4pm onwards on Thursday and had to keep telling people to fuck off out of my office.

After all, we were all at the gig (and the other gigs too) because of the same reason. People need to remember that.

[Bathtub]

Originally Posted by mank

I was about to say that I can't believe this thread has descended into bitching about other fans, bags, queues, barriers, entitlements, Londoners...and then I remembered where I was.

I can well believe it!

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[sofarsideways]

Originally Posted by Bathtub

THIS IS MY FAVOURITE THING THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED

[UEF]

Needs more eyeliner

[Takk]

Lol, because all the other manics online places and in fact the internet in general never have any complaining or disagreements .

[mank]

Originally Posted by Takk

Lol, because all the other manics online places and in fact the internet in general never have any complaining or disagreements .

I don't think it's so much that, after all it's what a forum is for, but that the ratio of comments regarding the gig is largely skewed towards people venting their anger towards other fans instead of recognising the fact that we all paid our money, travelled from afar and attended because of a mutual love of some middle-aged Welshmen.

but hey, I'm not one to talk

[Takk]

In this thread maybe, but I think this is the first time it's happened in a while - most of this tour and recently has been pretty good natured and much more about mutual love of the band. There was a ton of nastiness about fans in other places i won't mention when ticket sales were happening and none of it happened here, instead fans have been swapping tickets and helping people out. I understand the point but it's a bit grating to have people constantly making out it's about FD when it's a single thread and a few people complaining, and i've seen a lot worse on most other manics sites and in FD years ago, yknow?

Anyway, it's rather ironic it happened on the 17th gig thread, it was such a good gig.

[Takk]

Originally Posted by mank

Sorry, guilty as charged. I got a bit excited. Not sure Ingvild appreciated it.

You're okay...as long as you weren't the guy kissing his girlfriend's face every three seconds. she didn't look impressed either, lol.

[UEF]

There aren't really any other active Manics sites are there?