Futurology

[revcheese]

Originally Posted by Son of Stopped

It's weird how U2 have been around longer than the Manics and yet they've only just recorded their 12th album a few years ago. (Motorhead was in 1995)

They take notoriously long to release something, and often they scrap sessions and start over, very frustrating.

[nayo]

2 instrumentals! interesting.

[manicsturkey]

I think, Allthough I am a big manic fan, U2 give more attention to their album, work 1 or 2 years on it. And 12 albums of U2 are classics at least 3 ones are masterpiece according to me. After TIMTTMY only JFPL was really good to me. Manics dont love to be in studio any more..

[Dac X Lee]

Actually, I wouldn't compare the Manics to U2. The Manics are far better. I personally don't like U2, there's a dose of arrogance I feel from Bono and from U2's songs comming from his mouth, to be honest.

Nicky might sound arrogant too sometimes, but at least he doesn't fake being a humanitarian, he's honest with and about himself, while James seems to be pretty down on earth.

[revcheese]

Originally Posted by manicsturkey

I think, Allthough I am a big manic fan, U2 give more attention to their album, work 1 or 2 years on it. And 12 albums of U2 are classics at least 3 ones are masterpiece according to me. After TIMTTMY only JFPL was really good to me. Manics dont love to be in studio any more..

Spending a lot of time in the studio isn't necessarily a great thing, in U2's case it often leads to songs being overcooked/overdone/overproduced, and they spend a lot of time mulling over things.

I've been a big fan of them too, they've achieved an awful lot no matter what your opinion on them might be, but given the choice between U2's output when they were in their mid 40s and the Manics output at the same stage (ie. now), I'd take the Manics' quality of output every day of the week. That and I'm pretty confident that Futurology will be superior to what was U2's 12th (which wasn't even a bad album, but a bit flawed/uneven).

[manicsturkey]

we have listened 4 songs from "krautrock influenced" Futurology maybe I am so impatiant but dont know something is missed. They are addicted to Bowie's Low but I dont feel any emotion on the new single whereas I feel everysong in Low.

[wireobsessed]

Originally Posted by Dac X Lee

Actually, I wouldn't compare the Manics to U2. The Manics are far better. I personally don't like U2, there's a dose of arrogance I feel from Bono and from U2's songs comming from his mouth, to be honest.

Nicky might sound arrogant too sometimes, but at least he doesn't fake being a humanitarian, he's honest with and about himself, while James seems to be pretty down on earth.

I'm with you.I used to love U2 in the early days but not for a long time now. The last time I saw them (abt 1999/2000 ish can't remember) was a pompus, overblown gig that was just so incincere and a succession of telling the audience how bloody lucky they were that they were seeing U2 and seemed so out of touch for any band I've ever seen. It was full of celebs and was like a walking "whose who" of british rock and pop; just very odd indeed.

I wouldn't compare U2 & the Manics. U2 are not routed in the everyday and ordinary in a way that the Manics still are. James, Nicky & Sean are still living pretty much ordinary lives in the UK with two of them still living very close to where that were born and grew up. They haven't lived the Hollywood superstar lives and done what Bono & the Edge have. I think the Manics are certainly still true and honest with and about themselves while U2, well, they are pretty far removed from most peoples normality and seem quite happy to be like that. And if U2 still loved the whole writing, recording, rehearsing playing live routine we'd have had more albums from them and not just long periods of nothing. You've got to give it to the Manics (& I think James probably drives this) they certainly have an impressive work ethic and seem to genuinly enjoy and thrive on the routine they've built up of constant work, developing/writing and releasing albums and then touring.The Manics are a much better band all round for me.

[manicsturkey]

Originally Posted by wireobsessed

I'm with you.I used to love U2 in the early days but not for a long time now. The last time I saw them (abt 1999/2000 ish can't remember) was a pompus, overblown gig that was just so incincere and a succession of telling the audience how bloody lucky they were that they were seeing U2 and seemed so out of touch for any band I've ever seen. It was full of celebs and was like a walking "whose who" of british rock and pop; just very odd indeed.

I wouldn't compare U2 & the Manics. U2 are not routed in the everyday and ordinary in a way that the Manics still are. James, Nicky & Sean are still living pretty much ordinary lives in the UK with two of them still living very close to where that were born and grew up. They haven't lived the Hollywood superstar lives and done what Bono & the Edge have. I think the Manics are certainly still true and honest with and about themselves while U2, well, they are pretty far removed from most peoples normality and seem quite happy to be like that. And if U2 still loved the whole writing, recording, rehearsing playing live routine we'd have had more albums from them and not just long periods of nothing. You've got to give it to the Manics (& I think James probably drives this) they certainly have an impressive work ethic and seem to genuinly enjoy and thrive on the routine they've built up of constant work, developing/writing and releasing albums and then touring.The Manics are a much better band all round for me.

I dont think U2 is artifcial or dishonest. to be big band in the world comes with lots of situation. Saw them 2009 they were so close the fans. Nicky James and Sean they are my heroes since my childhood. But I mean they dont do their best for 10 years except JFPL.

[AK47]

based on that new article from the official site it is concerning that Nicky comes across as if he hasn't put a lot of effort in with the lyrics and focused more on fitting words to music.

[wireobsessed]

I think it might be quite a good thing that Nicky has actually focussed on fitting the words to the music. In the past it's been like shoehorning complex lyrics with too many words into the music for James so this could be a good thing. Don't get me wrong I prefer stronger, more complex lyrics but I'm willing to wait and see how it is on the actual album.

[Glyn]

So James wrote Europa then or have I misread that ?

[Dancing Kirby]

Originally Posted by Glyn

So James wrote Europa then or have I misread that ?

It would be a fair assumption to make from the text.

'Divine Youth' - a song partially inspired by a high street store making bootleg Manics T-shirts from a Mitch Ikeda photograph of a youthful Nicky and Richey

There's no way this one isn't going to be shit.

[AK47]

Originally Posted by Dancing Kirby

It would be a fair assumption to make from the text.



There's no way this one isn't going to be shit.

I'm thinking "All We Make Is Entertainment" all over again. A tirade against high street fashion.

[FacelessSenseOfVoid]

Originally Posted by AK47

I'm thinking "All We Make Is Entertainment" all over again. A tirade against high street fashion.

Can't see it being bombastic and angry musically, there's that harpist playing on it (although she might sing on it instead). Could be the acoustic song on the album.

[AK47]

Originally Posted by FacelessSenseOfVoid

Can't see it being bombastic and angry musically, there's that harpist playing on it (although she might sing on it instead). Could be the acoustic song on the album.

I was just thinking more along the lines of it simply being shit.