|
|
#61
14-12-2009, 09:31
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
 Smoking, however much the ad campaigns declare it, does not equal death. Of course it can cause lung issues in some people but that's just it; some people. Some people die of lung cancer and others can smoke til their 90s and not see any negative effects. It's premature pity to look at someone and think 'Oh dear, you're going to die...' when the same stigma doesn't apply to other "life-threatening" habits such as habitual excessive drinking.Plus, if someone enjoys smoking why not just let them do it? It's not much different to someone who enjoys extreme sports. You could die at any time. So long as it's not harming anyone else then you should be able to do what you like. 
|
|
#62
14-12-2009, 13:10
|
||||
|
||||
|
Maybe, if he has a kid of his own he might try to cut it out.
__________________
I need a remedy, of diesel and dust. Something I can taste, with a fix I can trust. Another high, more potent than lust. Eating and repeating like the workings of rust and time.
|
|
#63
14-12-2009, 14:23
|
||||
|
||||
|
February 12th 1983.
Lock the thread.
__________________
Quote:
|
|
#64
14-12-2009, 14:41
|
||||
|
||||
|
Despite being a heavy smoker, James seems to "hide" it well. What I mean is that, compared to other artists I'm a fan of (specifically Greg Dulli), James wasn't smoking on stage when I saw MSP on the North American tour and he wasn't smoking while meeting fans behind the venue afterwards, and as many photos as I've seen of him I don't recall very many where there's a cigarette involved. I don't think I've ever seen a taped concert where he's been smoking on stage, and even in interviews I remember seeing cigarette smoke on the screen but he wasn't grabbing to take a puff every three seconds.
Whereas, with Dulli, I swear he smokes at least an entire pack during every concert I've ever seen him at, some of the most famous shots of him have a cigarette hanging out of his mouth, you'd swear cigarettes were permanent fixtures. (Oh yikes, I did a google image search just now for Greg - at least 8 different shots of him with a cigarette in just the first two pages!) So even though I would prefer it if James didn't smoke, it could be much, much more in our faces and worse than it is.
__________________
|
|
#65
14-12-2009, 15:25
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
Quote:
Also: Perhaps it's different where you are, but I wouldn't say that habitual excessive drinking carries any less of a stigma than smoking where I live.
|
|
#66
14-12-2009, 15:41
|
||||
|
||||
 Fair enough. I just think it's a bit...a bit Daily Mail for want of a better comparison, to start lamenting the young and painful death of James just because he smokes. I have never looked at one of my friends having one too many whiskies yet again, and thought 'Oh, the horrifying fate that's in store for you...' Drinking does carry less of a stigma here, at least less than smoking. For one you're still allowed to do it in public without going to a special segregated outdoor place and being glared at disapprovingly by most passers-by.
|
|
#67
14-12-2009, 16:09
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
 As far as your not looking at your friends and thinking about what the consequences of their unhealthy behaviours might be, that might change in the future if you lose enough people you love to unhealthy behaviours.
|
|
#68
14-12-2009, 16:21
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
I must admit im very anti smoking but he did look cool as fuck!! Here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8LWoVhBEEs Last edited by *Found That Soul*; 14-12-2009 at 17:05.
|
|
#69
14-12-2009, 17:24
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
I probably didn't word my reaction correctly, as the image I did have in my head from your comment was more funny and melodramatic than serious. In my head I had violin music and James walking in slow motion.
|
|
#70
14-12-2009, 17:30
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
__________________
"WE DESTROY ROCK AN' ROLLLLLLLL!"  *sparkle and believe*
Last edited by rabbit; 14-12-2009 at 17:31. Reason: words
|
|
#72
14-12-2009, 20:00
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
Secondly, second-hand smoking only does damage if you're exposed to smoke for prolonged periods of time. If you smoke outside and in a smoking area, then you're not harming anyone else are you. Also, smoking doesn't mean kissing goodbye to your seventies. I know plenty of people, most of them in my own family, who drink their bodyweight in spirits on a regular basis and smoke like chimneys, and these are the people in their 80s and 90s with no serious health problems. It affects different people in different ways. Of course it's unhealthy, but it's personal choice. I hate the people who demonise smokers far more than I would ever hate someone who chooses to smoke because God forbid they actually enjoy it. I smoke every so often, about once a month whenever I fancy one. Selfishly I enjoy it very much.
|
|
#73
14-12-2009, 20:27
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
|
|
#74
14-12-2009, 20:33
|
||||
|
||||
|
Plus I have to add that a lot of people end up with cancer when they lead healthy lifestyles. For example a friend of mine, never smoked, always jogging/bike riding, only drinks socially a couple of times a year. Blam, cancer.
__________________
eat the rude
|
|
#75
14-12-2009, 20:39
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
Sure, you don't have to run around in traffic to get hit by a car, you could be standing on the side of the street and it happen, but you have to admit it greatly increases your chances. That's all I have to say on the subject. He's gonna do what he wants to do, but it is a shame he's greatly increasing his chances of having some serious health problems in the not-so-distant future. However, as long as he can still keep up making great music and singing his little heart out, the rest is none of our business.
|
 |
|
|
Linear Mode
