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View Poll Results: Most Over-Rated MSP Album?
Generation Terrorists (1992) 18 15.79%
Gold Against The Soul (1993) 5 4.39%
The Holy Bible (1994) 9 7.89%
Everything Must Go (1996) 13 11.40%
This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours (1998) 26 22.81%
Know Your Enemy (2001) 1 0.88%
Lifeblood (2004) 6 5.26%
Send Away The Tigers (2007) 24 21.05%
Journal For Plague Lovers (2009) 4 3.51%
Postcards From A Young Man (2010) 8 7.02%
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:51
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TIMT and GT are a bit overrated IMO. Some truly amazing songs but also a lot of filler that makes them difficult to listen to as a whole.

I also think Lifeblood is overrated by fans. It's a great album musically but the lyrics are generally pretty uninteresting, Nicky-on-autopilot stuff. I'm not a huge fan of James' vocals in places either, which is odd because I usually love his voice.
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I'd say TIMTTMY is massively overrated. It's hugely inconsistent in places.
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Couldn't accuse This Is My Truth of being overrated cos as commercially successful as it was at the time, it seems to get slagged off on here a fair bit now and it's been in more bargain bins and charity shops than I've had hot dinners. Doesn't seem to be that highly rated... Couldn't accuse The Holy Bible of being overrated for the opposite reason, very critically acclaimed but hardly a hit. Oh and the fact that it's the best album ever.

Hard choice but I went for Everything Must Go. I think it's the closest I've come to wearing a Manics album out, critical and commercial hit, some great stuff on there but to be honest I struggle to remember the last time I had it on.
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Well GT was certainly the most over-rated album by the band. Gonna be a number one in the UK and US, massive success, a brilliant work of art that'd let them retire after just one album, etc., etc. all that fun propagandizing. And then, of course, it wasn't. And NME's still over-stating the album like it's 1992 again. Damn good debut album? Yes. But really, the U.S. version of Repeat--ehh, not exactly brilliant stuff.

I still love GT, but the band and press seem to constantly go on about it.
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Truth is not overrated!
As infectious as your enthusiasm is for the manics it is also, unfortunately, massively irritating in equal measure. How can you like EVERYTHING they do and not have an opinion that isn't " They're amazing!"?. Sorry to be harsh but having a little criticism would make your posts much easier to digest and would open up more interaction to it.
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As infectious as your enthusiasm is for the manics it is also, unfortunately, massively irritating in equal measure. How can you like EVERYTHING they do and not have an opinion that isn't " They're amazing!"?. Sorry to be harsh but having a little criticism would make your posts much easier to digest and would open up more interaction to it.
I critisize Nicky's singing often. Is that not enough?
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I critisize Nicky's singing often. Is that not enough?
that counts I guess lol
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As infectious as your enthusiasm is for the manics it is also, unfortunately, massively irritating in equal measure. How can you like EVERYTHING they do and not have an opinion that isn't " They're amazing!"?. Sorry to be harsh but having a little criticism would make your posts much easier to digest and would open up more interaction to it.
To be fair, Truth is pretty much a special album to Tracey, so she's going to say it's amazing and defend it to the hilt. If you diss her favourite album, she'll get you. In a nice way of course.

You could level the same argument of over praising them at me, I rarely post anything negative about the band. My maxim(drummed into to me from an early age) is pretty much, if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. I'm often snarky, but there tends not to be any venom behind it.

Engage with your shadow excepted, that really was chuffing awful.
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To be fair, Truth is pretty much a special album to Tracey, so she's going to say it's amazing and defend it to the hilt. If you diss her favourite album, she'll get you. In a nice way of course.

You could level the same argument of over praising them at me, I rarely post anything negative about the band. My maxim(drummed into to me from an early age) is pretty much, if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. I'm often snarky, but there tends not to be any venom behind it.

Engage with your shadow excepted, that really was chuffing awful.
No Venom from me.
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Tracey, I was a knobhead yesterday. I am sorry for my comment. It was unfair. Carry on, the world could do with happy people like you x
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You could level the same argument of over praising them at me, I rarely post anything negative about the band. My maxim(drummed into to me from an early age) is pretty much, if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. I'm often snarky, but there tends not to be any venom behind it.
It can feel a bit like the BBC - that any negative comment must be immediately balanced with praise, which is usually along the lines of "No it doesn't" or "Well I like it!" which doesn't really lend itself to continued discussion... perhaps a good maxim for discussion forums is "discuss"?

That said, this place wouldn't be what it is without Tracey and her endless positivity and enthusiasm.
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Tracey, I was a knobhead yesterday. I am sorry for my comment. It was unfair. Carry on, the world could do with happy people like you x
everyone, whether they care to admit it or not, behaves like a total dick now and then, or in extreme cases such as my good self, far too frequently.

it takes a man amongst men to stand up, admit it and say sorry.

consider yourself saluted, if we all took a leaf from your approach this excellent forum would be even better.
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