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Old 26-09-2019, 18:07
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According to setlist.fm they closed with Motorcycle Emptiness rather than a Design for Life. Is that correct?
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Old 26-09-2019, 23:23
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Correct!! Bit of a surprise.

JDB introduced it along the lines of “This one takes us right back to the start, some happy memories of Japan with this song”
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Old 27-09-2019, 04:07
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- The First Half

So the setlist. I think the first half followed the same as previous dates. TIMT in mostly the right right order, with Tsunami and My Little Empire swapped over, Prologue in place of Nobody Loved You and Tolerate at the end.

- Thoughts on this half...

Tsunami was absolutely rocking. I mean, that song was made to be played live. Just astounding. My Little Empire - I heard that first on TV with Glastonbury 99 - last night's version was far superior. The guitar was just sublime. Prologue to History was just spat out, full of venom and malice - so so so good. Highlight of the set! Born A Girl - just James and Nick Naysmyth - was absolutely beautiful, really worked well. SYMM was great, but rightly didn't close the set - that would have been weird. Really enjoyed all the others too, but Tsunami and Prologue really stood out the most.

The Second Half -

Slash 'n' Burn / Your Love Alone / Everything Must Go / International Blue / ADFL / Little Baby Nothing / Sweet Child O' Mine / You Love Us / No Surface / Motorcycle Emptiness

Thoughts on this half -

Slash 'n' Burn was just blistering. The guitar work on the Firebird was spot on, and the sound was gorgeous. James gave it his all, moans and all. YLA was great. Everything Must Go just had this sinister edge to it. James didn't play his usual Gretsch for this one, using the (I think) Shergold. Whether that was the reason or not, I dunno, but it was really bloody good as a performance. Little Baby Nothing was a nice addition, but without the female vocals, it's not as strong, obviously. But still - Four GT songs in a set! Yes please. Sweet Child was a great cover choice, and as JDB said - there's no meaning, no reason, no statement, just a great song that rocks (or something like that). And rock, it did. And then... closing on Motorcycle Emptiness. That... was just beautiful.

Positives - The Japanese crowds are nice and placid (not just at Manics gigs). Nice and calm, no squishing and aggressive pushing. Though not as much jumping around I guess. Every song, especially the GT stuff, got massive audience participation. People were really belting them out - JDB gave a whole half verse of LBN to the audience.

Negatives -

Wayne Murray's vocals too loud. And not always pleasant. Nicky's vocals too quiet. James' guitar too quite during the solos on some songs.

Guitar nerd info -

Nicky was on Fender Japan Aerodyne basses the whole night. A natural finish with tortoiseshell pickguard and PJ pickups (I think) for the TIMT set, then his shoreline gold Aerodyne jazz for the second half, with the red Aerodyne P (with the Sex Pistols sticker) for Sweet Child o Mine.

James had the white Gibson LP Custom (with new pickups with gold poles?), (Richey's) Fender Telecaster Thinline, cream Jazzmaster and a 52 Telecaster in natural finish during the first half. Second half saw him whip out a non-reverse Firebird for Slash and Burn and Sweet Child, and what I think was a white Shergold (correct me please) which he used for most of the set. White LP got very little look-in last night!!

And my own personal joy...

18 years after my first Manics gig (Manchester Apollo, 2001) and 20 years after first hearing Motown Junk on Glasto 99 and being blown away enough to suddenly seek out everything I could about this band - I finally got to meet them. Well, Nicky and James. I was allowed backstage, and had a little chat with Nicky about his Jimmy Savile shellsuit at the Apollo and what he's reading, and a little chat with James about guitars. And, of course, the obligatory photographs. So I am a happy chappy.

That aside, this was simply just a great gig. Though, in honesty, TIMT really doesn't work as well as a "full album played live" thing as EMG or THB. But as a fan, it was a wonderful experience.
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Old 27-09-2019, 08:46
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Brilliant write up, thank you. Glad you had a great time.
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Old 27-09-2019, 10:17
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Great write up and yeah, I thought Tsunami was the highlight of the gig I went to. Very jumpy song.
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Old 27-09-2019, 21:38
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I've always thought Motorcycle is a born set closer. I think I noticed they'd put it there somewhere else (maybe an old Summer Sonic setlist perhaps.) But yeah, I think it would be a worthy switch with Design, if just for the one tour.
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Old 28-09-2019, 11:26
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Thanks for that. A little disappointed that all the Gold Against the Soul has disappeared, but Slash n Burn is always fun live!
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Old 30-09-2019, 02:01
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Oooo, thanks for that!
Wasn't sure of the model.
James also has a Shergold Masquerader too - https://www.instagram.com/p/B1Llbqgn...d=4e4pek7rwx4n
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Not sure if this is the right thread for this but here's JDB doing Sweet Caroline, Design and Can't Take My Eyes Off You before the rugby in Japan.
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Oooo, thanks for that!
Wasn't sure of the model.
James also has a Shergold Masquerader too - https://www.instagram.com/p/B1Llbqgn...d=4e4pek7rwx4n
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Old 15-10-2019, 02:48
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ah ha, good call...

although the red aerodyne only came on for Sweet Child, so Wire must play Slash and Burn in standard tuning
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