Everything Must Go Demos Early 1995 - Forever Delayed

MonkeyGeorge94 · #1 03-11-2013, 14:09

I was just wondering what songs were actually demoed before Richey disappeared? I know he played rhythm guitar on NSAF...

sculptureofabloke · #2 03-11-2013, 14:12

Can't remember where I heard it mentioned but I'm sure I remember reading that James played Small Black Flowers to Richey. Likewise, can't remember where I read it but I think Removables goes back to 1993? Besides that, not sure.

Suicide Aldi · #3 03-11-2013, 14:20

I remember hearing that Further Away was demo'd then as well. And Kevin Carter.

Suicide Aldi · #4 03-11-2013, 14:24

Infact, dosnt James say on the documentory on the EMG 10yr reissue dvd that he got the impression Richey wasnt too keen on Kevin Carter? Or have I imagined this?

sculptureofabloke · #5 03-11-2013, 14:26

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I remember hearing that Further Away was demo'd then as well. And Kevin Carter.

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Infact, dosnt James say on the documentory on the EMG 10yr reissue dvd that he got the impression Richey wasnt too keen on Kevin Carter? Or have I imagined this?

Haven't watched it for aaaaaages, will probably stick it on later tonight to see.

Kevin Carter would make sense, being one of Richey's lyrics, but I always took Further Away to be about Richey?

Suicide Aldi · #6 03-11-2013, 14:28

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Haven't watched it for aaaaaages, will probably stick it on later tonight to see.

Kevin Carter would make sense, being one of Richey's lyrics, but I always took Further Away to be about Richey?

I heard it was about Nicky missing his wife and family while on tour? I could of course be wrong.

MonkeyGeorge94 · #7 03-11-2013, 14:31

I recall Nicky has said Further Away is the manics only love song. So I think it is about missing his wife. I may have to watch the EMG documentary again!

Takk · #8 03-11-2013, 14:32

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I recall Nicky has said Further Away is the manics only love song. So I think it is about missing his wife. I may have to watch the EMG documentary again!

Until the one about his dog?

sculptureofabloke · #9 03-11-2013, 14:37

To be fair, most Manics songs can be interpreted to being about Richey

Suicide Aldi · #10 03-11-2013, 15:18

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Until the one about his dog?

Hahaha! Which is the one about his dog?

Oh wait, Black dog on my shoulder?

Nature's Discontent · #11 03-11-2013, 15:54

I'm pretty sure Richey liked all of the songs that were demoed to him; Small Black Flowers and Kevin Carter were two of them definitely. James said somewhere (sorry, can't remember where) that he wouldn't have put them out if Richey hadn't been happy with what he'd heard.

No Surface All Feeling goes back to 1994, it was Nicky's song about his feelings that the band members were beginning to drift apart/live their own lives and everything.

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Hahaha! Which is the one about his dog?

Oh wait, Black dog on my shoulder?

Nah, I think it's Some Kind Of Nothingness. BDOMS is about depression.

Suicide Aldi · #12 03-11-2013, 16:29

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Nah, I think it's Some Kind Of Nothingness. BDOMS is about depression.

I thought it couldnt be BDOMS to be honest because Id always thought it was about depression, but I didnt realise SKON was about his dog.

UEF · #13 03-11-2013, 19:06

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No Surface All Feeling goes back to 1994, it was Nicky's song about his feelings that the band members were beginning to drift apart/live their own lives and everything.

Really? I didn't think it was a song about anything in particular, just words (an Autumnsong of sorts...) - have you got a source for that?

sculptureofabloke · #14 03-11-2013, 19:49

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No Surface All Feeling goes back to 1994, it was Nicky's song about his feelings that the band members were beginning to drift apart/live their own lives and everything.

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Really? I didn't think it was a song about anything in particular, just words (an Autumnsong of sorts...) - have you got a source for that?

Yeah, I've not heard that one before either. Eh sometimes I forget whether stuff that rings a bell is stuff I've read in interviews or had speculative pub conversations about.

I know Nicky was married by then, but eh they didn't seem to have a great deal of time for anything except the band in 94?

Nature's Discontent · #15 03-11-2013, 20:45

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Really? I didn't think it was a song about anything in particular, just words (an Autumnsong of sorts...) - have you got a source for that?

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Yeah, I've not heard that one before either. Eh sometimes I forget whether stuff that rings a bell is stuff I've read in interviews or had speculative pub conversations about.

I know Nicky was married by then, but eh they didn't seem to have a great deal of time for anything except the band in 94?

Nicky was talking about it in an interview with Q magazine around 1996. Don't have an actual link to it, though, sorry.